-Stratesiz- Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 Does the word "you" imply the person who drew the characters, the people who publiced them in the first place, Denmark, Scandinavia, the Nordic Countries, the EU or the Western countries in general? How can the actions of a few individuals be blamed on a nation? Are all Danes evil now? Does that count people that have two nationalities? I don't recall where I read it but I think a Swede got kidnapped somewhere since the kidnappers thought he was a Dane. After realising this they let him go. "-Sorry for kidnapping you, wrong nationality" Bleh.
mawibse Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 You folks made the cartoons, you reprinted the cartoons to antagonize the Muslim world and now you're crying that they don't like you? You can't be that obtuse. You girls took on the short skirts, you made the sexy walk, you teased them with your dancing and now you're crying because they raped you? You can't be that obtuse.
The Postman Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 You girls took on the short skirts, you made the sexy walk, you teased them with your dancing and now you're crying because they raped you? You can't be that obtuse. Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion. Your attempted jab misses its mark. Does the word "you" imply the person who drew the characters, the people who publiced them in the first place, Denmark, Scandinavia, the Nordic Countries, the EU or the Western countries in general? How can the actions of a few individuals be blamed on a nation? Are all Danes evil now? Does that count people that have two nationalities? It's a shitty situation, now isn't it? I get the brunt of loathing of Americans if I travel to other nations strictly because well, I have an American accent. Now am I to blame for everything the US has done? No. Do I get the backlash of that strictly by being American? Yes. Now why is that? Because people want to have someone to question, someone to be angry at. By being a member of that nation you represent that nation to that person. Same reason middle-eastern folks were killed and terrorized following 9-11 here in the US of A. People want a scapegoat for their problems and if you happen to fit that description they're gonna lash out. For the record, by "you" I meant the EU and the US for reprinting those cartoons for no other reason than antagonization.
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 Exactly Strat. As for the points about the cartoons you've just made again regardless of any logic thrown your way. You folks made the cartoons, you reprinted the cartoons to antagonize the Muslim world and now you're crying that they don't like you? You can't be that obtuse. Wait.. you are saying because a few individuals printed cartoons, its ok they hate us all, and we are racist xenophobes. :roll:
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 You girls took on the short skirts, you made the sexy walk, you teased them with your dancing and now you're crying because they raped you? You can't be that obtuse. Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion. Your attempted jab misses its mark. Mawibse is only repeating your argument Posty :roll: This whole muslim riot thing is a logical fallacy and appeal to emotion, but you accept it because theyre poor, oppressed muslims. Go ask a muslim what should happen to Salman. NOW
The Postman Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 Mawibse is only repeating your argument Posty :roll: He's repeating it and inserting something inside the argumentative structure that has nothing to do with the topic at hand and has no correlation in it whatsoever. Wait.. you are saying because a few individuals printed cartoons, its ok they hate us all, and we are racist xenophobes. :roll: Your inability to use logic astounds me yet again. No. It's not okay that they hate you all. I am explaining it. I am not justifying it. Should I use smaller words for you?
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 Your inability to use logic astounds me yet again. No. It's not okay that they hate you all. I am explaining it. I am not justifying it. Should I use smaller words for you? Dont fool yourself. You are not explaining anything. You are calling me an idiot for disagreeing with their hatred
The Postman Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 Dont fool yourself. You are not explaining anything. You are calling me an idiot for disagreeing with their hatred Okay. Smaller words. The Danish make bad picture. The Muslims mad at picture. The Danish laugh. The EU make more picture. The Muslims get more mad. The EU goes "uh oh!" The Muslims riot. RD says "lol stupid violent beasts lol"
mawibse Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 I get the brunt of loathing of Americans if I travel to other nations strictly because well, I have an American accent. Now am I to blame for everything the US has done? You folks invaded Iraq, you first said you did it because they where a threat with their WMD's then when they didn't exist you said it was because the Iraqis needed to be liberated, the invasion costs more then ten times civilian Iraqi lifes then US soldiers, and now you're crying that the world don't like you? You can't be that obtuse.
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 Dont fool yourself. You are not explaining anything. You are calling me an idiot for disagreeing with their hatred Okay. Smaller words. The Danish make bad picture. The Muslims mad at picture. The Danish laugh. The EU make more picture. The Muslims get more mad. The EU goes "uh oh!" The Muslims riot. RD says "lol stupid violent beasts lol" The Danish make bad picture. The Muslims mad at picture. The Danish apologize. The Muslims: death to all Danish The EU make more picture. The Muslims get more mad. The EU goes "uh oh!" The Muslims riot. The Muslims massacre dozens RD says "lol stupid violent beasts lol" Posty says: what did you expect. You deserve to die. But seriously, you cant be surprised by 911. You cant be surprised when they behead you. You cant be surprised by anything they do. Why do you even explain it to me, you should be condemning their madness but instead you attack those who print cartoons
st0lve Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 The people who made them didn't appology, the goverments and such did it. So its like me saying sorry cause posty insulted you.
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 The people who made them didn't appology, the goverments and such did it. So its like me saying sorry cause posty insulted you. They did apologize. For insulting the muslims, not for printing it. The muslims also wanted the government to apologize, but it couldnt because it has nothing to do with the media
The Postman Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 They did apologize. For insulting the muslims, not for printing it. The muslims also wanted the government to apologize, but it couldnt because it has nothing to do with the media They also apologized well after shit had already hit the fan and many other nations were reprinting them for the sole purpose of egging the ME on. After that point Denmark (and later the paper itself) apologizing was so many empty gestures all too late.
The Postman Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 The Danish make bad picture. The Muslims mad at picture. The Muslims: death to all Danish The EU make more picture. The Muslims get more mad. The EU goes "uh oh!" The Danish apologize. The Muslims riot. The Muslims accidentally kill each other and innocents in the riots. RD says "lol stupid violent beasts lol" Posty says: what did you expect? You made your bed, now lay in it. Fixed. Why do you even explain it to me, you should be condemning their madness but instead you attack those who print cartoons JESUS. H. FUCKING. CHRIST. RD. Seriously? I can't even fathom this right now. I've spelled it out in the clearest of simplistic language. The EU and everyone else that fanned the flames of this shit - the cartoon shit, not 9/11, not the beheadings, not anything else you KEEP BRINGING UP THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS - can't be angry at the ME for getting angry at them for printing those cartoons and basically pointing and laughing while they got aggitated. They only coughed forth a half-hearted apology when the int'l community chastised them for being the assholes they were in the first place.
RD Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Posted February 21, 2006 They also apologized well after shit had already hit the fan and many other nations were reprinting them for the sole purpose of egging the ME on. After that point Denmark (and later the paper itself) apologizing was so many empty gestures all too late. Denmark apologized before any other European paper reprinted the toons. Europe didnt reprint them to insult muslims, I could as well say you invaded Iraq to wipe out Islam. We did it because it is the pinnacle of free speech to be able to say what you want without getting killed. Obviously it is no longer possible in Europe because of extremists, and this basically proves the whole toon issue to be true and justified. Why the hell do we have to change our laws because the Middle East wants it.
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