the new cartoon thread

[RD]

Because the riots are still going and the other one is locked, here is a new one.

The latest news:

India minister and muslim scholars call for the beheading of Danish cartoonists and a reward of 10 million dollars. Im almost tempted myself.

And:

"Nigeria cartoon protests kill 16"

At least 16 people have been killed in northern Nigeria in violent protests over by Muslims over the cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Eleven churches were burned during the riots in Maiduguri, the capital of the north-eastern state of Borno.

Soldiers have been deployed and a curfew imposed, police say.

These are the first violent protests over the cartoons in Nigeria, whose population is nearly equally split between Muslims and Christians.

Residents in Maiduguri described demonstrators running wild after police tried to disperse the protest with teargas.

Some were deliberately targeting the city's Christian minority.

"At least 10 churches, some hotels, more than 20 shops and over 10 vehicles were burned by the protesters," one resident told Reuters news agency by telephone.

Another resident said "most of the dead were Christians beaten to death on the streets by the rioters", according to the Associated Press news agency.

Violent clashes

State governor Modu Sheriff said the state "was shocked and disgusted" by "the civil disturbance" in Maiduguri.

At least 15 died in the city, while one person was killed in similar riots in north-central Katsina state.

Around 115 people were arrested in Maiduguri and 105 in Katsina, a police spokesman said.

The cartoons, first published by Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten in September, have angered Muslims across the world and sparked sometimes violent protests.

In Libya, at least 10 people died in clashes with police outside an Italian mission on Friday, during a rally over an Italian minister's decision to put the cartoons on T-shirts.

The minister, Roberto Calderoli has resigned, and Libya's interior minister has been suspended as the country investigates the violence.

The cartoons, which have since been reprinted by several other European publications, include an image portraying Muhammad with a bomb in his turban.

Islamic tradition strictly prohibits any depiction of Allah or the Prophet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4728616.stm

[von*ferret]

got to love hate crimes.

[RD]

and the ironic truth of the cartoons

[The Postman]

and the ironic truth of the cartoons

I prefer to look at it as a kind of "last straw that broke the camel's back." It's a fucking shame that it's led to this, but you must admit that antagonization by the West (Italian politician saying he'll wear a shirt with the cartoon, reprintings, etc) hasn't helped.

[Lurker]

The cartoons were the spark that ignited the fire. What goes around comes around, and that goes to both sides in this argument.

[Fletch]

I find it kind of ironic that most of the deaths in the Middle East and Asia have been rioters accidentally trampling each other or getting caught in their own fires. Not a funny ironic, mind you. Just a sad ironic.

Also, African riots are probably going to get a lot more dangerous, because that is a whole continent that has been brimming with racial, ethnic, tribal, and religious tensions for a hundred years. Anytime somebody sets off something like this, you get deaths in the hundreds or thousands by the time it's over.

[RD]

and the ironic truth of the cartoons

I prefer to look at it as a kind of "last straw that broke the camel's back." It's a fucking shame that it's led to this, but you must admit that antagonization by the West (Italian politician saying he'll wear a shirt with the cartoon, reprintings, etc) hasn't helped.

You make it sound like the poor muslims are always pestered and finally fight back.

The cartoons were the spark that ignited the fire. What goes around comes around, and that goes to both sides in this argument.

Are you saying they will stop rioting and start drawing cartoons about us?

[Skjalg]

haha rd you really know how to twist words

[st0lve]

We are just adding more salt in their wounds, thinking that it will help.

Its a shame that people can be that stupid.

[RD]

Still you blame it on the west, even after they have massacred dozens?

Obviously they have no mercy for those who insult their prophet, live in the same country or just have a diffrent religion.

The only way you can get around their ignorance is to make them aware of it. Admitting that the cartoonist made a mortal mistake and deserve to die isnt the solution st0lve. Its idiocy.

The biggest mistake we made was to tell them this whole thing is a flaw in of western society.

It was the salt in their wounds

[st0lve]

I didn't say that.

I just think that we all knew what the drawings did, and we all got so happy cause we "owned" the Muslims with our Freedom of Speech.

But now, like that Italian guy, it doesn't do anything new, except cause havoc and crap in the ME and such.

[RD]

the best thing to do when insulting islam is punishable by death is to all insult islam, instead of being cowards and running away. This has happened before and probably a million times, its time they get rid of their sickness

[kleinluka]

its time they get rid of their sickness

And you think that this can be achieved by insulting their beliefs? i highly doubt it. it does the exact opposite. Moderate muslims become radicalized by these things and join the troops of terror and mindless killers. I don't think it's the right approach.

[RD]

Someone who becomes a mindless killer over a toon isnt moderate. That is exactly the sickness. What other approach is there?

[The Postman]

You make it sound like the poor muslims are always pestered and finally fight back.

Considering the entire Muslim world was relatively quiet even with the invasion of Afghanistan, even with the invasion of Iraq, even with all the prisoner torture scandals and abuses of the Koran that happened, and all that other stuff? Yes, it seems like they've put up with a lot of shit and are finally mad as hell.

its time they get rid of their sickness

If only we could think of some kind of "Final Solution" or something to this whole Muslim question. :roll:

Still you blame it on the west, even after they have massacred dozens?

Obviously they have no mercy for those who insult their prophet, live in the same country or just have a diffrent religion.

Are you truly this fucking stupid? Denmark made the cartoons. Denmark printed the cartoons. The EU reprinted those cartoons after the small initial backlash. Then cocky politicians started touting the cartoons as the pinnacle of free-speech when in reality it was just xenophobia for having so many North Africans moving into their countries.

Yes it's the West's fault in this case. You poke a fucking tiger long enough with a stick and the fucker's gonna take a swing at you.