Apparently GOD was wrong..

[Kosmo]

..but I'm glad that WE as his "creations" are smart enough to fix his mistakes, afterall, he is just all knowing and all powerful.

Apparently Vatican is rethinking it's stand on limbo, as it seems that it is rather unpopular in Africa where the death rate of babies is very high.

I agree that it IS easier to change the whole structure of a religion than approve the use of condoms.

Chicago Tribune

[TomWithTheWeather]

Religion, in its organized form, has always changed at the whims of whomever is powerful enough to make it happen. It is created, written, and organized by man, and will always be skewed and screwed with by man, which is it's flaw.

[Skjalg]

Religion, in its organized form, has always changed at the whims of whomever is powerful enough to make it happen. It is created, written, and organized by man, and will always be skewed and screwed with by man, which is it's flaw.

Which ofcourse presumes that god exists and made religion.

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This thread is going nowhere again...

[mawibse]

God never said they went to Limbo, the Vatikan did, and the Vatikan has realized their error and tries to fix it.

[Kosmo]

God never said they went to Limbo, the Vatikan did, and the Vatikan has realized their error and tries to fix it.

You might want to brush your sarcasm detector there. I didn't mean the subject or the following joke to be taken literally, but since you are here already I believe that you have a good sense of humor.

[TomWithTheWeather]

Religion, in its organized form, has always changed at the whims of whomever is powerful enough to make it happen. It is created, written, and organized by man, and will always be skewed and screwed with by man, which is it's flaw.

Which ofcourse presumes that god exists and made religion.

Huh? I presumed?

[mawibse]

Religion, in its organized form, has always changed at the whims of whomever is powerful enough to make it happen. It is created, written, and organized by man, and will always be skewed and screwed with by man, which is it's flaw.

Same goes for Science.

You might want to brush your sarcasm detector there. I didn't mean the subject or the following joke to be taken literally, but since you are here already I believe that you have a good sense of humor.

Not trying to lessen your "humor through sarcasm", Just wanted to make sure that no one thought limbo is mentioned in the Bible or anything.

[Kosmo]

Not trying to lessen your "humor through sarcasm", Just wanted to make sure that no one thought limbo is mentioned in the Bible or anything.

I have to take your word for it, since I don't know

[The Postman]

Same goes for Science.

Last I checked, rival scientists never got their followers together to invade countries or commit atrocities in the name of string theory or some-such.

[Kosmo]

Same goes for Science.

Last I checked, rival scientists never got their followers together to invade countries or commit atrocities in the name of string theory or some-such.

Nor is it chaged by one "guys" whim, because it is not based on supposed actions and/or sayings of all powerful being, trying to be the truth.

Scientific front is pretty widespread and ununified to be considered anything like a religion.

[Pericolos0]

Religion, in its organized form, has always changed at the whims of whomever is powerful enough to make it happen. It is created, written, and organized by man, and will always be skewed and screwed with by man, which is it's flaw.

Same goes for Science.

how is it a flaw of science? science is science, you cannot just skew the facts here, because if you do that, it will be exposed.. with science itself!!

[mawibse]

Last I checked, rival scientists never got their followers together to invade countries or commit atrocities in the name of string theory or some-such.

...and the next time anyone says otherwise I'll spank them.

Now, if we respond to something the other one actually wrote, this discussion won’t run in all directions at once.

Nor is it chaged by one "guys" whim, because it is not based on supposed actions and/or sayings of all powerful being, trying to be the truth.

As much scientific research is done on one "guys" whim as the Vatican's decision to change the stance on limbo was.

Scientific front is pretty widespread and ununified to be considered anything like a religion.

… religion is unified? And not widespread? … you gotta continue that train of thought cause it derailed for me.

how is it a flaw of science?

The same way it's a flaw of religion.

science is science, you cannot just skew the facts here, because if you do that, it will be exposed.. with science itself!!

And all murderers get caught, all thieves locked up and we live happily ever after.

But for us that don't live in fairy tale land, scientific facts get scewed all the time even if some eventually gets exposed.

Just as the Vatikan realised their error on limbo.

[Kosmo]

Scientific front is pretty widespread and ununified to be considered anything like a religion.

… religion is unified? And not widespread? … you gotta continue that train of thought cause it derailed for me.

With widespread I didn't mean the actual science, but actually the thought of science, some might believe in gravity, but not in evolution, and so on.

With religion, you either believe one thing and only one thing being an absolute truth, it is the main requirement of being a "believer".

With science, if something doesn't fit, I can just think about it myself, not just accept it as wrong as I see it just because I don't have the balls to actually think different.

[mawibse]

With widespread I didn't mean the actual science, but actually the thought of science, some might believe in gravity, but not in evolution, and so on.

Like some believe Jesus is the son of god and some believe he is "just" a prophet?

With religion, you either believe one thing and only one thing being an absolute truth, it is the main requirement of being a "believer".

No it's not. Just as in science we might share an overall common idea but in the details we might have different interpretations.

Like say, if blood transfusion is good or bad according to the bible.

Just because two persons believe in the bible doesnt mean they have the exact same idea of what absolute truth is, thats impossible, there are so much implications of what is mentioned in the bible that goes outside of what it answers. Much is up to individual interpretation.

With science, if something doesn't fit, I can just think about it myself, not just accept it as wrong as I see it just because I don't have the balls to actually think different.

Like I said, missconseption on your part, just because you share a religion with someone doesnt mean your not allowed to think different. Infact youre human so its impossible to not think different.