The root of all evil: the human being itself?

[Kosmo]

If you think about it it is only logical that we must have a soul. What else makes our decisions?

As scientific as I am, I believe in soul, I also believe in Karma and Rebith.

I believe that they are our perception of nature that is way more complicated that we give it credit for.

[The Postman]

If you think about it it is only logical that we must have a soul. What else makes our decisions?

Why is that logical? You're making unfounded assumptions and passing them off as logic. Back this up.

[mawibse]

If you think about it it is only logical that we must have a soul. What else makes our decisions?

If you think about it it is only logical that there must be a God. What else would create the universe?

As scientific as I am, I believe in soul, I also believe in Karma and Rebith.

The soul, Karma and Rebith is as scientific as the Fairy King.

[RD]

Why is that logical? You're making unfounded assumptions and passing them off as logic. Back this up.

Just think about it, what makes our decisions? Where does a thought begin?

Yes, mindboggling stuff!

[DaanO]

I don't see how this can even be a discussion. 'Evil' itself is an invention of humanity, it doesn't even exist really. It's a cultural thing. Thus, human beings are the root of all evil.

[Scraps]

Example Scraps, in regards to the post you responded to, please?

Eh, it's quick and dirty mainly because I don't feel like digging in ProQuest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_egoism

I don't see how this can even be a discussion. 'Evil' itself is an invention of humanity, it doesn't even exist really. It's a cultural thing. Thus, human beings are the root of all evil.

Divine Command Theory says that God decided what good and evil was.

Utilitarianism says that something that doesn't maximize happiness is evil.

Egoism says there is no evil.

[JynxDaddy]

Evil is an opinion.

Hitler for example is seen as evil to us, but there are no evil people, just wrong people. Hitler was wrong - very wrong, but he thought he was doing something really good.

I must stress, what he did was not good, he was wrong.

[ginsengavenger]

I agree gin, we are just malformities to the DNA that has hijacked our souls

Got any studies or statistics or articles to back this up or are you just supposing?

God no just a rumor I read on the back of a bar napkin

[Bic-B@ll]

i'd just like to point out that my dog bites my feet constantly and steals my socks on a regular basis.

[kleinluka]

Evil is an opinion.

Hitler for example is seen as evil to us, but there are no evil people, just wrong people. Hitler was wrong - very wrong, but he thought he was doing something really good.

I must stress, what he did was not good, he was wrong.

I think killing 6 million jews is pretty evil.

I dont think thats an opinion but a fact. Just because Hitler thought killing 6 million jews was good doesn't make it any less evil.

[mawibse]

Egoism says there is no evil.

No, it says evil is what I think it is.

Just think about it, what makes our decisions? Where does a thought begin?

The exact state of the brains at the moment of a "decision" is what makes it, and brains is where a thought begins and ends.

I dont think thats an opinion but a fact.

You have an Evilometer? You know those things are said to have a direct link to the will of god, who else could judge such things, surely not man.

[Kosmo]

As scientific as I am, I believe in soul, I also believe in Karma and Rebith.

The soul, Karma and Rebith is as scientific as the Fairy King.

Not you again, you have obviously made it your mission to haunt me haven't you.

But fair enough, be like that.

As you might notice when you read my post again, and this time think about it. I said that I believe in them, as being something that exists but are not as simple or complicated we think they are, they might just be part of nature that are so complex that we don't understand them yet, thusly making them very real. Just like many say that man fitting the description of Jesus really existed but that doesn't make him some sort of mage or son of god, now does it.

Humans understand so little of the brain and how it works, the same way we understand so little of the universe, things like these being possible is in the realm of possibility.

[mawibse]

Not you again, you have obviously made it your mission to haunt me haven't you.

If it bothers you just say the safe sentence; "mawibse is god" and I'll stop responding to your posts until you say othervice.

I believe in them, as being something that exists but are not as simple or complicated we think they are, they might just be part of nature that are so complex that we don't understand them yet, thusly making them very real.

You have just taken one of Intelligent Designs prime argument for making ID a valid thing to teach in Science class and turned it into a defense for your personal beliefs in Fairy tale stuff.

Unfortunately, anything man can make up, from Mind reading to Santa Claus, falls under that very defense. "It might not be discovered yet"

You're no better then the religious yahoos, you dont need facts or studies, faith alone suits you fine.

Nothing wrong with it, just wanted you to realize this.

[Kosmo]

Not you again, you have obviously made it your mission to haunt me haven't you.

If it bothers you just say the safe sentence; "mawibse is god" and I'll stop responding to your posts until you say othervice.

This is a forum, it wouldn't work wery well if we just selected the people we wanted to respond to our posts.

I believe in them, as being something that exists but are not as simple or complicated we think they are, they might just be part of nature that are so complex that we don't understand them yet, thusly making them very real.

You have just taken one of Intelligent Designs prime argument for making ID a valid thing to teach in Science class and turned it into a defense for your personal beliefs in Fairy tale stuff.

Unfortunately, anything man can make up, from Mind reading to Santa Claus, falls under that very defense. "It might not be discovered yet"

You're no better then the religious yahoos, you dont need facts or studies, faith alone suits you fine.

Nothing wrong with it, just wanted you to realize this.

I know that already, but what ever my beliefs, I know that they are bunch of fairytale at the moment, but would I want people to teach them in science class? Certainly no, there is no scientific proof for them, and might that there never will be, I have discovered them myself and I want my kids to do so too, so no bullshitting people in school

And it's not that much a matter of firm believe that something has to absolutely exist, it's more of a "wouldn't it be cool if Jedis really existed" "dude".

Like I said, as scientific as I am, I like to believe in things like Love and such, the world is much cooler that way, afterall I AM in a creative business, viewing world as cold and sterile place wouldn't work that good

[mawibse]

I'm with you Kosmo.

*mawibse hugs Kosmo*

Kosmo: Yeah yeah.

*mawibse hugs Kosmo*

Komso: .. ok thats enough.

*mawibse hugs Kosmo*

Kosmo: Please stop.

*mawibse hugs Kosmo*

Kosmo: K, thats enough, let me go or I'll headbut you.

*mawibse hugs Kosmo*

Kosmo:.......

*SOCK!*