Religeon is the root of all evil

[GrayFox]

FFS why are religion flamers always tolerated. No matter how cheap your arguements are, they always get accepted lol...

Fuck off telling believers how stupid they are and how weak because they need a religion to 'make it thru the day'. Yeah, go ahead and be a non-believer, just piss off and go fuck yourselfes if the only thing youre gonna do is pooping on other peoples believs.

So.

TWICE there have been people at my door preaching about God and when I've told them I don't believe in God they litterally pat me in the back and say "you poor thing". The next thing they've seen is a door being slammed shut in front of their faces. It's not like you believers are any better than the rest of us either...

[⌐■_■]

I didn't say that and I don't go off peoples doors. Don't generalise.

/grrr bark bark

[GrayFox]

I didn't say that and I don't go off peoples doors. Don't generalise.

And most of us haven't said that you're weak.

But I think the biggest reason why non-believers don't like religion is because it's crammed at our faces all the time like some sort of propaganda.

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*Sigh + lol*

I never said all of you were saying that.

[RD]

Islam is a peaceful religion at heart. It condemns killing of innocents just like any other religion. It isn't the religion that's the problem, it is radical fundamentalists that misinterpret what is written in the qu'ran.

Christianity, same thing. It's the people that go too crazy and overboard with it that make life a pain for everybody else with a different opinion/belief.

Over here (holland) theres kinda a debate about wether islam is a problem or not. Some ppl think it isnt, that islam has nothing to do with the violence, and others think it has. The funny thing is, a somali muslim woman (a refugee) in our government says islam is the root of the problem. Basically she says islam is peaceful, but extremely open to extremist influences. She doesnt hate islam and shes still a muslim, but she hates extremists. She says a few dozen (in holland) are violent extremists, a few thousand are supportive of the extremist ideas, and the giant

majority of muslims is peaceful but says islam is perfect and it cant be a problem. If you say their religion is peaceful, but open to extremist influences, theyre outraged. Needless to say she lives in constant hiding and several extremists carrying machineguns or pistols and a hitlist with her name on it(and many others)have been arrested.

I dont know how it is in the US, but over here when you insult the quran, you need protection from extremists. If you make a comic about muhammed, or a movie, or a painting whatever, the peaceful majority of muslims condemns you, and when you get killed, theyre shocked and say "Killing is bad, but you know its dangerous to insult islam, you should have known, youd still be alive today". That kinda sums up the problem. How can it be dangerous, and not be a problem?

And then there are ppl who want to be politically correct at all times afraid to be called racist (i know its not a race), they probably think they are racist if they do connect islam to the problem. I said in another thread here that i thought islam had something to do with terrorism, and i was told to GTFO and never come back. It has nothing to do with racism or hating the religion. Christianity had such a time, its in the history books. If you dont want to admit that islam can have anything to do with the problem, you must be quite sure that religion is perfect. And i get the vague impression that none of you even vaguely believe that. I guess its ok to say religion is the root of alot of evil, but its completely racist to say islam is maybe a bit more open to extremists than others.

[GrayFox]

*Sigh + lol*

I never said all of you were saying that.

Yes, yes... but I didn't accuse you of preaching at my door either. Some people preach, and some hate it. Some say non-believers are weak without Jesus and some say the opposite.

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But I think the biggest reason why non-believers don't like religion is because it's crammed at our faces all the time like some sort of propaganda.

I dont like that either. I too encounter sometimes Jehovas or people walking around and screaming passages. Yeah that sucks and I also dont like that. But I see too much generalisations in the critique.

Yeah, it sucks that there are still fuckheads preaching hell and doomnation all day, it sucks that there are still people who dont think for themselves but only seek the security in the promise of a better afterlife. Its messed up that there are still people who dont hink for themselves and blow themselves up in crowded places and are prepared to kill childs, jus because they are promised paradise. Fuck that. Thats not believing. And I think most people know that.

[⌐■_■]

Islam is a peaceful religion at heart. It condemns killing of innocents just like any other religion. It isn't the religion that's the problem, it is radical fundamentalists that misinterpret what is written in the qu'ran.

Christianity, same thing. It's the people that go too crazy and overboard with it that make life a pain for everybody else with a different opinion/belief.

Over here (holland) theres kinda a debate about wether islam is a problem or not. Some ppl think it isnt, that islam has nothing to do with the violence, and others think it has. The funny thing is, a somali muslim woman (a refugee) in our government says islam is the root of the problem. Basically she says islam is peaceful, but extremely open to extremist influences. She doesnt hate islam and shes still a muslim, but she hates extremists. She says a few dozen (in holland) are violent extremists, a few thousand are supportive of the extremist ideas, and the giant

majority of muslims is peaceful but says islam is perfect and it cant be a problem. If you say their religion is peaceful, but open to extremist influences, theyre outraged. Needless to say she lives in constant hiding and several extremists carrying machineguns or pistols and a hitlist with her name on it(and many others)have been arrested.

I dont know how it is in the US, but over here when you insult the quran, you need protection from extremists. If you make a comic about muhammed, or a movie, or a painting whatever, the peaceful majority of muslims condemns you, and when you get killed, theyre shocked and say "Killing is bad, but you know its dangerous to insult islam, you should have known, youd still be alive today". That kinda sums up the problem. How can it be dangerous, and not be a problem?

And then there are ppl who want to be politically correct at all times afraid to be called racist (i know its not a race), they probably think they are racist if they do connect islam to the problem. I said in another thread here that i thought islam had something to do with terrorism, and i was told to GTFO and never come back. It has nothing to do with racism or hating the religion. Christianity had such a time, its in the history books. If you dont want to admit that islam can have anything to do with the problem, you must be quite sure that religion is perfect. And i get the vague impression that none of you even vaguely believe that. I guess its ok to say religion is the root of alot of evil, but its completely racist to say islam is maybe a bit more open to extremists than others.

Well, in holland we have a combination of dicks, pussies and assholes. Right now, the assholes are the majority and the pussies are being shit on. What we need are more dicks. Truth is that the world lacks dicks and thus I think were gonna be in deep shit.

[RD]

Well, in holland we have a combination of dicks, pussies and assholes. Right now, the assholes are the majority and the pussies are being shit on. What we need are more dicks. Truth is that the world lacks dicks and thus I think were gonna be in deep shit.

You mean dicks like the somali woman?

[mawibse]

Mawbise, there is a hole in your theory about rules and how we decide to follow them.

For instance, rules like laws that our societies have are not for one to choose which to follow and which not.

.... so when you download madonna-hung_up.mp3 you don't choose to not follow the rules of the law?

Could you explain what you mean cause I dont get what my "hole" is?

[⌐■_■]

Well, in holland we have a combination of dicks, pussies and assholes. Right now, the assholes are the majority and the pussies are being shit on. What we need are more dicks. Truth is that the world lacks dicks and thus I think were gonna be in deep shit.

You mean dicks like the somali woman?

Yes. She for example is a dick. A gentle one, that is. A real dick for example would be Theo van Gogh. I liked him...

But I also mean ordinairy people with guts and ideals who are not afraid to vent their opnions and defending them.

lol @ mawbise

[Kosmo]

Mawbise, there is a hole in your theory about rules and how we decide to follow them.

For instance, rules like laws that our societies have are not for one to choose which to follow and which not.

.... so when you download madonna-hung_up.mp3 you don't choose to not follow the rules of the law?

Could you explain what you mean cause I dont get what my "hole" is?

I guess it's the jailtime that defines the hole.

You are utterly insane if you compare "rules" that are in bible to rules of society that usually are called laws like apples to apples. It's not 16th century anymore hombre, you can't go to jail by breaking the ten commandments.

[mawibse]

I guess it's the jailtime that defines the hole.

I think your theory on my hole got a whollotta holes in it.

You are utterly insane if you compare "rules" that are in bible to rules of society that usually are called laws

And many societies draw their rules from religions, the mainstream religion of the area by which many live by.

I let you sort out your differences by yourself.

It's not 16th century anymore hombre, you can't go to jail by breaking the ten commandments.

Yeah, "thou shalt not kill" is way to 16th century to go to jail for these days...

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OMG pwnd.

[st0lve]

km you watch to much Team America.

I think religion is a huge factor in the shitty stuff in our world, I mean what wars\terrorist attacks aren't caused by a religion as a root?