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mawibse

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Adam is a proper metaphor for the first human, so I don't see anything bad about it.

Its NOT the search for the first male human ie "Adam".

It's a puzzle from ~10 000 samples of DNA around the world from which you try to find a common ancestor pattern.

Then you compare that to the samples to see what current samples are most like the common ancestor pattern and from that you guess what region the "DNA ancestor" came from. Talk about a shitload of things that could go wrong.

With only 10 000 samples my bet is that they havent even covered a third of the worlds countries for starters.

Not that I dont think it's interesting but to even imply that it's got something to do with the first ever male human is just a publicity stunt in my book.

since god is not a scientific term.

You mean like Adam is??

theres not much points to knock off from genetic research, unless u dont believe in DNA

Uhh and if my research says 2+2=5 you cant nock off points, unless you dont believe in math?

Promise me RD, never to be a scientist, stick to making kick ass maps...

Eh who am I kiddin, youd be a great scientist I'm just cranky because I cant get hold of a X800GTO2.

Kosmo

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Mawbise you are dumb as a brick, that I'm sure.

I never pitched "Search for Adam" as something scientific, I just said that Adam is a proper term (not THE proper term, THE proper term would be Homo Habilis or some other from the start of the Homo genus) for first human, since they are trying to find the first human and alot of people regardless of religion know about the Adam and Eve mythos, so when they say "Search for Adam" people instantly think that they are searching for the root of humans/first human, or atleast that is how I tought about it.

Thusly, making it proper term for the current situation or rather proper name for scientific show searching for the roots of human, but at the same time dumbing it down for people. Capish?

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Mawibse you should watch the show. Ur right tho its not perfect science, thats why theyre gonna collect 90.000 more samples.

I was just reading some entries on the blog on NG about the project, pretty funny stuff:

God's Adam [ posted by bigrandy1958@juno.com at June 27, 2005 02:09 AM ] 



The Holy Bible is the greatest book ever written, and in it we can find the answers to most of life’s questions. The answers we can’t find, or the answers we can’t understand…well… it’s just not for us to know, at least not now, anyhow. But if you are a Christian and have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart, you’ll have the opportunity some day to ask the Great Creator face to face when you get to heaven, any questions that might still be burning in your heart. Isn’t that awesome?

It doesn’t’ take scientists and a world wide Genographic Project for us to understand the origin of the human race. But I applaud you for your efforts and for helping through the physical evidence of science to prove what God has already told to us in the Bible in Genesis 2:7, “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” 


God called the first man to ever walk the face of the earth, Adam. And from Adam’s own body, God made him “an help meet” and Adam called her Woman. After the temptation in the Garden of Eden and the first sin, Adam named the woman that the Lord had made for him, Eve; because she was to become the mother of all living. As punishment for their sin, they were cast from the Garden of Eden and Eve began to bear their children. There it is… right there in the Holy Bible… Adam and Eve were the father and mother of all living mankind and from those two, all the people of the world were born. And yes… that includes red, yellow, black, and white. 


The Bible tells us that a river flowed out of Eden to water the Garden and it parted into four heads; The Pison, which encompassed Havilah; The Gihon, which encompassed Ethiopia; The Hidekel, to the east of Assyria; and The Euphrates. There it is again… right there in the Holy Bible… The dawn of mankind began in the Middle East where modern day Iran and Iraq is. For two thousand years, our ancestors inhabited the land in and around that part of the world. But that all ended when the second Adam known as Noah, was spared from the Great Flood that destroyed every living thing on the face of the earth.


Noah was responsible for repopulating the world one last time. His three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, began their journey from Mt. Arat, where the Ark landed after the great flood, and from those three, and from that mountain in Turkey, Noah’s three sons and their descendants repopulated all the corners of the earth.


God is so awesome!

I guess he didnt see the show, it says Adams from Africa not the ME :)

mawibse

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Kosmo your such a mean bully, bricking me and rediculing god and Timberlake, now I'll cry myself to sleep. :(

Since I'm a brick n all, who(m) did the three sons of Noah populated the world with?

Kosmo

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Kosmo your such a mean bully, bricking me and rediculing god and Timberlake, now I'll cry myself to sleep. :(

Is there a friendly bully? Besides, I like badmouthing God, because all his followers are weaklings, what is the worst that can happen? Some Priest tries to kick my ass because I said God sucks? It's so easy to kick Popes ass that I'd let my little sister do that.

Since I'm a brick n all, who(m) did the three sons of Noah populated the world with?

They had all sorts of animals.

mawibse

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Sure they did, name one wife, one, I dare you!!

And what is this "bible" everybody talks about?

I like badmouthing God, because all his followers are weaklings, .....It's so easy to kick Popes ass that I'd let my little sister do that.

Yes Kosmo *sob* blease don't let your sister hit me anymore, I admit it, I'm a weakling and dumb as a brick and promise to not believe in god anymore and here's my lunch money. *cries*

The Postman

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Mawibse you should watch the show. Ur right tho its not perfect science, thats why theyre gonna collect 90.000 more samples.

I was just reading some entries on the blog on NG about the project, pretty funny stuff:

God's Adam [ posted by bigrandy1958@juno.com at June 27, 2005 02:09 AM ] Bunch of shit!

I guess he didnt see the show, it says Adams from Africa not the ME :)

Surely that written history couldn't be an allusion to mankind's settling of the fertile crescent and egypt. No way! :monocle:

Sure they did, name one wife, one, I dare you!!

And what is this "bible" everybody talks about?

I like badmouthing God, because all his followers are weaklings, .....It's so easy to kick Popes ass that I'd let my little sister do that.

Yes Kosmo *sob* blease don't let your sister hit me anymore, I admit it, I'm a weakling and dumb as a brick and promise to not believe in god anymore and here's my lunch money. *cries*

Well this conversation is de-evolving (lol pun intended) into a bunch of shit. Kosmo, Mawibse, state your points or leave the conversation.

since god is not a scientific term.

You mean like Adam is??

Reference to historical texts, places or people in scientific or other literature? My word how faulty! Surely this proves the Bible right!

The Postman

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But Posty, if you don't think that ID has no scientific value what so ever, howcome you think that the Bible is an accurate historical book?

It's actually pretty decent when referring to the history of some ways of life and geographic locations mentioned in its stories. However all the bumbling explanations of the world around us fall flat. Just like you can read about the Wizard of Oz and know that Kansas exists and so did the Depression.

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:lol: kansas

TOPEKA, Kan. - Risking the kind of nationwide ridicule it faced six years ago, the Kansas Board of Education approved new public-school science standards Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.

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All six of those who voted for the new standards were Republicans. Two Republicans and two Democrats voted no.

"This is a sad day. We're becoming a laughingstock of not only the nation, but of the world, and I hate that," said board member Janet Waugh, a Kansas City Democrat.

Supporters of the new standards said they will promote academic freedom. "It gets rid of a lot of dogma that's being taught in the classroom today," said board member John Bacon, an Olathe Republican.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_ ... ion_debate

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