RD Posted February 23, 2004 Author Report Posted February 23, 2004 iceduck is with me, now u stand no chance. and DD for the love of urself stop adding random numbers, u cant argue with math
Mazy Posted February 23, 2004 Report Posted February 23, 2004 AT FIRST I WAS SCEPTICAL ABOUT THE CODE!!! BUT NOW SEE TEH TR00F!!!!! PRAISE TEH CODE!!! THX RD!!11!!
CrazyMAC Posted February 23, 2004 Report Posted February 23, 2004 im still not seeing anything that someone cud not have written down in there room and handed out to ppl :\
RD Posted February 23, 2004 Author Report Posted February 23, 2004 i copied the following from the site: -the Koran tells us how old the universe is, something which was only discovered in the last 50 yrs. The modern accepted figure for the age of the universe is a little bit more than 18 billion yrs. The koran says god created the universe 50.000 years ago, and one day for god is 1000yrs for man. the universe is then 50.000x365.000 =18.25billion years old -the koran says man was created from clay. In 2003 scientists have discovered that they can make matter from clay which grows and divides without using any biochemical machinery, something which can now give clues about how life began on the primitive Earth -the koran says: Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, and the mountains as pegs. Which is exactly what mountains are, pegs to hold the continents in place, something which most humans even today dont know, that under the earths crust is a reverse mountain that keeps the continents in place. Without them there would have been no life possible on earth. -the koran says: The Romans were defeated in the lowest of the lands. It is now known that the area near the Dead Sea, which was the scene of these battles, is the lowest spot on earth! -the koran describes the ozon layer, and holes in it -the koran describes the shape as becoming oval as time passed. Most humans even today think the earth is circular, and even the ones that know earth is an oval dont know that it wasnt always oval, but began circular. -the koran describes the fases of the creation of the universe and even the creation of gravity by god to hold the planets in orbits, which scientists believe to be true, but they cannot explain the origins of gravity. Science describes the big bang as the point where all universal laws break down, but they forget it is actually the place where all universal laws were created, not broken down. -the koran says that the element iron came from outside our galaxy, a theory which science now uses to explain this mystery. -the word 'day' is used 365 times in the koran, the number of times the earth revolves around its own axis during one round around the sun. The word month is used 12 times. -the multiple of 'days' is used 30 times, the number of days in a month (yes there is no month that has 31 days, its rounded!!) -the use of all the derivatives of the word 'day' is used 475 times (19x25) In the time the earth moves around the sun once, the sun revolves around its own axis 25 times, and the sun, the earth and the moon allign once evry 19 yrs(a meton cycle)! That means the sun turns around itself 19x25 =475 times in a meton cycle. -the word 'year' is used 7 times, and 'years' 12 times. The moon revolves around the earth 12 times during the time the earth revolves around the sun 365 times. After the earth has revolved around the sun the moon is behind schedule and takes 19yrs to line up again. This is why the lunar calender is rearranged every 19yrs, with 12 full years and 7 leapyears. In the koran, the 19th time these words are used together, the verse reads: And the sun and the moon crash into one another. . -the word moon is used 27 times, and the moons eclyptic cycle takes 27 days -the word 'sea' is used 32 times, the word 'land' is used 13 times, together 45 times. The ratio of 32 to 45 is 71, and the ratio of 13 to 45 is 29. U can look up in any encyclopedia that the land covers 29% of the earth and the seas 71% !!!!! -the koran describes gravity and literally mentions that planets and suns travel in orbits. This was written at a time when ppl thought the earth was flat and not moving. -the koran says the universe is expanding, which was only discovered by science recently -the koran describes the nuclear reaction of stars, how they are born and die and the effects of it on nearby planets. -the koran describes the moon as reflecting suns light, which it does. -the koran says there are 6 layers around our universe (6 more universes), but u cannot penetrate them without authority. There are theories today that there are barriers around our universe that give access to the next layer. One such barrier is the speed of light
DD Posted February 23, 2004 Report Posted February 23, 2004 the quran or the koran? People don't know how to spell their own beliefs? Using the koran/quran to prove the koran/quran is faulty logic as well. Also evolution and the creation of life from non-existant life has been proven. It has been proven that the earth rotates around the sun, and that our solar system rotates around the universe's center. It's been proven that the bible and other forms or religion were invented at specific dates by people due to politics and war. FACTS. Stop pushing your beliefs on others when we have facts. Once again, I am not arguing your math, I'm arguing your faulty logic. Applying math to random numbers proves nothing.
Mojo Posted February 23, 2004 Report Posted February 23, 2004 RD is a troll at times. You should post your John Titor theories here too RD John Travolta theory? You mean the theory that his movies are all involved mathimatically? Basic (2003) Lucky Numbers (2000) Perfect (1985) Two of a Kind (1983) Tenth Level, The (1975) (TV) Don't forget about the name connection: Michael (1996) is about an angel named Michael which leads to more angel-related events in Eyes of an Angel (1991). Eyes can be linked with Face/Off and Shout since they deal with the head. Shout links up with the Look Who's Talking Movies since they involve mouths. And Look Who's Talking Too can relate to the math theory since Too also means two if you listen to it closely. And don't even get me started on the Gary Sinise Theory!
RD Posted February 23, 2004 Author Report Posted February 23, 2004 eh.. im not pushing anything onto u, calm down!! u keep talking about ur facts, but ur forgetting one very important fact DD.U should keep ALL facts in mind, and not just the ones u want to believe. The fact that science is unable to function at that time which sparked the beginning of evrything. If u still dont get it, its a fact that the laws of physics DO NOT explain the creation, and never can. The beginning of the universe is not the moment where all laws of physics break down, but the moment where all laws of pyshics came to be.
DD Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 That's your belief once again, not fact. The origin of the universe is still unknown scientifically, likewise if the laws of physics aren't completely valid in all cases. This doesn't make them useless or unfactual. You can still predicate actions down to like 10^20 decimal points correctly in almost all fundamental laws, what does this mean? Nothing. But you can use science to prove the existances of living beings before man, the evolution of man and other animals, and that most religions are wrong. If my physics equations based on tested procedures can predict values with a 0.999999 correlation and your beliefs prove nothing and have faulty logic, well then I'm going with my science, my facts.
RD Posted February 24, 2004 Author Report Posted February 24, 2004 But you can use science to prove the existances of living beings before man, the evolution of man and other animals, and that most religions are wrong DD ive asked 3 times now u post just one of ur facts that is disproving the koran.
Iceduck Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 Don't worry, RD. The disbelievers will meet their destiny at the gates of HELL while we eat pancakes with Allah himself in heaven.
mawibse Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 Humans invented mathematics as a way to predict stuff for simplicitys sake. (Esier to calculate the distance to the moon then actually measure it) We have theories in form of mathematical formulas that we use so as to predict better, these are revised all the time. The smaller and faster something becomes the harder it becomes to measure and therefore more difficult to predict. Some values has more meaning then others in certain areas and will be more frequent due to different criteria’s, PI is such a number. 666 is another. Without actually knowing/being able to read Arabic the Koran is impossible for you to comprehend since the language you read it with is so different from what it was written in. Think of it as trying to listen to music by reading notes. Almost impossible and never exactly, or often not even close, to what the original song sounded like. A thing that strikes me about all religious scriptures is the amount of information that concerns things of no relevance. Like “god in a form of a burning bush†(what a showoff) or how the Koran mentions the wall of “Zulqarnain†(the two horned ones wal), but it has no relevance. If god was to write something you would think he would speak of things of importance and in a way that would be similar in as many languages as possible? He is writing a book to humanity after all, not just a small group of people with a specific set of knowledge?
spine Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 It's been proven that the bible and other forms or religion were invented at specific dates by people due to politics and war. I agree, All religions is invented by man to control the masses. Don't get me wrong it has a purpose, but dont think u will find any universal answeres there, but it has worked well to control and give people support, and still does. It's when some people start to look for the meaning of life in them that they show there weak point (the religions), they where not meant for that. It's there to tell you right from wrong and to give u a support in life.
Pericolos0 Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 RD is a troll at times. You should post your John Titor theories here too RD John Travolta theory? You mean the theory that his movies are all involved mathimatically? Basic (2003) Lucky Numbers (2000) Perfect (1985) Two of a Kind (1983) Tenth Level, The (1975) (TV) Don't forget about the name connection: Michael (1996) is about an angel named Michael which leads to more angel-related events in Eyes of an Angel (1991). Eyes can be linked with Face/Off and Shout since they deal with the head. Shout links up with the Look Who's Talking Movies since they involve mouths. And Look Who's Talking Too can relate to the math theory since Too also means two if you listen to it closely. And don't even get me started on the Gary Sinise Theory! No no John Titor is a time traveller that used to be posting on forums and chatting in irc channels about his whereabouts. RD loves him.
DD Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 But you can use science to prove the existances of living beings before man, the evolution of man and other animals, and that most religions are wrong DD ive asked 3 times now u post just one of ur facts that is disproving the koran. I have in several posts. But you ignore what I say and post religious banters as if to justify your faulty logic. You can't prove faulty logic from the koran by using the koran. I posted several examples where the code was specifically incorrect. Go back and read. About the numerals, the equations not always being applied correctly, how there is no elements in the table of elements with a number of XXX (I forgot, go look back). Just read, and stop posting your religious quotes, it doesn't prove anything. And most importantly the horrible faulty logic I pointed out which doesn't prove anything.
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