Corona Virus

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[FMPONE]

3 hours ago, will2k said:

Protip for people working from home

 

[ZZZ]

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=a439430f535e2f61941a78b3d3b79c4fd5f1a9e6-1585361502-0-AcjE5Q8nRXL6_n6STiJ_L618dDjTBca1xlWpJ1O7rZEY3PSSNmeqM1bTHMn5YPGzBnuEA4bLGRDxpIdLAJGtcdGfkg2hL2bnhwYoqVTKXVmXH5HoGXq8P_O_Tnw-x4igpV-6-rmL2G8BFGjmAawu4SE8tLFsBQ-2K9XgFNJfCimgdeEoF-42Fr6Ny4HSLeuGPkOpkUBjumVrehbZKZwoqDzlCc0h6t_iphhn-550T1i7XWwdj7sUZOZf903-U3-OhvmRYvSTp9MTp-YCypKKUdClonbtz2js74qOBlYpIyXg2QPFQmR_p14O9kT4IONPVO8z68JPtD_2R4DA9Gysm6GxCaokBMrgFGqBkdWvCjDP

For some reason some scientists are skeptical about this crisis. I really don't understand what made this particular virus cause this global crisis that is making all governments say that ppl should stay at home until it is safe to go out.

[RaVaGe]

8 hours ago, 0kelvin said:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=a439430f535e2f61941a78b3d3b79c4fd5f1a9e6-1585361502-0-AcjE5Q8nRXL6_n6STiJ_L618dDjTBca1xlWpJ1O7rZEY3PSSNmeqM1bTHMn5YPGzBnuEA4bLGRDxpIdLAJGtcdGfkg2hL2bnhwYoqVTKXVmXH5HoGXq8P_O_Tnw-x4igpV-6-rmL2G8BFGjmAawu4SE8tLFsBQ-2K9XgFNJfCimgdeEoF-42Fr6Ny4HSLeuGPkOpkUBjumVrehbZKZwoqDzlCc0h6t_iphhn-550T1i7XWwdj7sUZOZf903-U3-OhvmRYvSTp9MTp-YCypKKUdClonbtz2js74qOBlYpIyXg2QPFQmR_p14O9kT4IONPVO8z68JPtD_2R4DA9Gysm6GxCaokBMrgFGqBkdWvCjDP

For some reason some scientists are skeptical about this crisis. I really don't understand what made this particular virus cause this global crisis that is making all governments say that ppl should stay at home until it is safe to go out.

Hospitals are full ?

[Radu]

[blackdog]

On 3/28/2020 at 2:24 AM, 0kelvin said:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=a439430f535e2f61941a78b3d3b79c4fd5f1a9e6-1585361502-0-AcjE5Q8nRXL6_n6STiJ_L618dDjTBca1xlWpJ1O7rZEY3PSSNmeqM1bTHMn5YPGzBnuEA4bLGRDxpIdLAJGtcdGfkg2hL2bnhwYoqVTKXVmXH5HoGXq8P_O_Tnw-x4igpV-6-rmL2G8BFGjmAawu4SE8tLFsBQ-2K9XgFNJfCimgdeEoF-42Fr6Ny4HSLeuGPkOpkUBjumVrehbZKZwoqDzlCc0h6t_iphhn-550T1i7XWwdj7sUZOZf903-U3-OhvmRYvSTp9MTp-YCypKKUdClonbtz2js74qOBlYpIyXg2QPFQmR_p14O9kT4IONPVO8z68JPtD_2R4DA9Gysm6GxCaokBMrgFGqBkdWvCjDP

For some reason some scientists are skeptical about this crisis. I really don't understand what made this particular virus cause this global crisis that is making all governments say that ppl should stay at home until it is safe to go out.

MAH.

First of all, from my quick skim none of them seems to be an epidemiologist – maybe I missed something. I can agree on some points, but then, like @RaVaGe says, I think to the 1000 deaths per day in my country. Or the 2 deaths per hour in New York.

When the fuck have these doctors seen fridge trucks outside the hospitals because morgues are full??

Also they sound a lot like this is a conspiracy and the rest of doctors are enjoying the attention they getting… if the economy goes to shit, nobody will be dancing.

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[Radu]

[Izuno]

Hey long time Mapcorians...I come back here regularly to read...much less regularly to post.  I think now warrants a post:

1) I have several people in my circle who have had this.  (a) My long time JKD/Kali/Silat/BJJ instructor got it. He's in his 50s in Los Angeles suburbs and had heart valve surgery four years ago. He recovered after being on oxygen at home for 6 days. (He's got connections to people in medicine/emergency care...lucky him for not having to go into the ER).  His lungs still hurt despite being designated recovered. (b) My close friend in his 40s in Los Angeles with two kids under 10 has it right now and they are debating if they should take him to the ER. He has no underlying conditions, was never a smoker. (c) Another instructor I've trained with over recent years has his own MMA and film stunts school in Vancouver got it. No underlying conditions...in his 30 and TEACHES BJJ and was a pro fighter for a while and is the toughest, healthiest person I know.  He "home cared" and thought he was going to die and after 3 weeks is now mostly functional again despite still feeling very weak.

2) My parents are old...pre-diabetic and have other conditions.  I am terrified of them getting it.  I ain't getting this. What if I need to help them or buy them groceries and deliver to their house? Don't want to risk infecting them.

3) There is so little incentive to get this because you just don't know how it will affect you.  Even if the death rate is 1% and heavily skews towards elderly, already sick, etc. think about the odds of needing hospitalization.  Is that a 5% chance? If the odds of young, healthy person getting it and becoming a serious case is 5%...or even 2%...that does not sound that appealing. 

4) Seems like China did not fully report how serious it was and how many people died there.  

5) Shutting everything down is going to crush the economy.  Not shutting everything down will cause mass infections and hospitalizations an order of magnitude(s) worse...and would then break our economy.  The way to save the economy is to kill this virus. That's gonna take a while and it's going to suck.  However bad you think it realistically is going to suck, there's a strong chance one way or another this is going to suck worse.

....not sure what else to say. I hope no one I know dies. I hope no one I know suffers...but some already have.

I hope all of you stay safe and healthy and are able to work and maintain a living. Being in the games industry is a lot better than working in event planning or restaurants or etc etc. Count your blessings if you can.

[Minos]

On 3/24/2020 at 9:07 AM, dux said:

Good chance my mum has contracted the virus. Pretty worried atm

How is she doing?

[ZZZ]

I just had my first online class. Teacher was streaming from home and it was just like the regular classes.

I'm worried about the courses that require labs because you can't do anything without having access to the lab itself. This is going to screw everyone's schedule.

For the first night in 2 weeks ppl stopped demanding for the president to fall. He must have received some advice to stop claiming that the virus was not so serious and that ppl shouldn't be afraid to go out.

Edited April 2, 2020 by 0kelvin

[dux]

12 hours ago, Minos said:

How is she doing?

She's doing better thanks. First couple of days didn't know which way it was gonna go but it settled into mild symptoms which is basically the worst case of flu you'll ever get. To say I was stressed was an understatement. 

[Radu]

Seems like the state of emergency just got extended for another month here.

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I know of a couple that got it, they're in London. She had a fever for a week and a half, he had a cough for more or less the same time, their little daughter (3 years old) was asymptomatic. They're now almost fully recovered.

[Izuno]

My friend in his 40s in Los Angeles is finally on the mend.  He got a covid19 test after the fact and it came out negative but his doctor (over Skype) said he does not think the tests are as accurate as they should be in that he believes they overreport negative by a lot.  It is also possible that it has been enough days since he recovered when he got tested that it should actually show up as negative.

Meanwhile, this same friend also got a covid19 antibody test, but he was told the results would take longer by a few days to get an answer. It is possible he may indeed test negative for covid19 but positive for the antibodies, which would obviously imply he did indeed have it and has gotten over it...and hopefully immune to future infection but (again obvious) we are still early in the science on understanding all that for sure.