FUBAR Ops

[Guest The_Postman]

I've already given you an idea. A wonderful platform to jump from. Try something that doesn't say "uber realism, quazi CS mod." That's a nice first rung on the ladder to try. Lord knows we need another mod with MP5s, M4s, and flashbangs.

OH HEY PAGE 4!

[mawibse]

Youre awfly persistent.

I think most got the idea of what youre trying to say by now, k?

But since you dont seem to understand what I'm saying:

I heard you the first time but youre opinion is not ours, deal with it.

Now, contribute or spread youre patronizing bitterness somewhere else.

[Guest The_Postman]

Meow Meow Meow Catchow!

[DD]

ID makes Doom]I[ one of the more anticipated games this year, tell me what the "creative idea" behind that one is?

Take a look at doom 1. It's a very creative game, it helped forge and popularize the fps genre. Where else do you see flying demon heads with lasers attached to them? Making sequels of creative games counts as being creative. see Mario series, Zelda, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, ..., etc. You lose.

Valve makes HL2 one of the more anticipated games this year, tell me what the "creative idea" behind that one is?

It's based off Half-life, one of the best fps of all time in the eyes of many. Half-life is about a strange scientist, Gordan Freemans, trip to the black mesa where bizarre expirements results in disater where aliens cross dimensions to cause havoc. Tell me what in your right mind makes you think this isn't a creative idea? While it it heavily affected by the ideas of others, its still creative. You lose.

Dice makes Battlefield Vietnam one of the more anticipated games this year, tell me what the "creative idea" behind that one is?

It is? I never thought it was. Looks damn sexy though, and if its anything like B42 its creative in tons of gameplay ideas. Why do you think B42 is so fun and people take so many ideas from them now? They did take ideas from others as well, but B42 is remarkable when it comes to online gameplay fun factor. You lose.

Polyphony Digital's makes Gran Turismo 4 one of the more anticipated games this year, tell me what the "creative idea" behind that one is?

It's a most anticipated game? If anytihng its because it looks photo realistic. They do have unique ideas in bringing tons of real world cars that are supposed to handle much what you would think they would or actually would. You lose.

Gearb... Bungie is making Halo 2 one of the more anticipated games this year, tell me what the "creative idea" behind that one is?

See Halo 1. You lose.

Oddly enough, it seems those considered the best game designers in the world don't think a "creative idea" is enough to make a successful game.

See "the sims" series. The highest grossing PC game EVER. See Sim City. See Black & White, see Mario Series, Zelda, Grand Theft Auto,.... etc. Very creative ideas sell, publishers just aren't willing to risk new ideas most of the time. Thats not to say well thought out game design and features are not appreciated on existing genres.

So yes, all these games you mention do know better and are not ignorant such as yourself. They are all VERY CREATIVE games.

Uhm, ID and Valve is controlled by their publishers?

They're both idependent developers. They just have publishers to.. publish.

[Guest The_Postman]

And DD with the homerun!

[mawibse]

Making sequels of creative games counts as being creative. see Mario series, Zelda, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, ..., etc. You lose.

*lifts eyebrow*

You see, I know this is difficult but do try to concentrate, otherwise this might take a long time, hmm?

Creative and “creative idea” is significantly different. Creative in front of another word like “a creative painting” does signify originality, the painting would be considered expressive and original. So the correct interpretation of “creative idea” would be a new and original idea.

So no matter how much you bla bla bla bla, and it’s a heck of allot *yawn*, about the first instalments in a game series, unless the sequels are fundamentally different they are not considered “creative ideas”. Creative yes, but having a “creative idea” no.

publishers just aren't willing to risk new ideas most of the time.

Really? One would think that publishers know that 95% of all “creative ideas” not translate into fun and therefore is crap and will sell as good as DD’s dictionary.

Thats not to say well thought out game design and features are not appreciated on existing genres.

…..you and The_Postman could have fooled me…

So yes, all these games you mention do know better and are not ignorant such as yourself. They are all VERY CREATIVE games.

… the games know better? And I’m ignorant?

You do know that ignorant means showing lack of education or knowledge right?

And pretending we talked about creative and not “creative ideas” was a nice move, better luck next time.

Now, run along and play baseball with The_Postman, he seems to have started without you. *pats DD on the head*

[jfas]

is it just me or is his agrument "HEY IM NOT LISTENING TO YOU DD LA LA LA LA"

[mawibse]

.... uhm, yeah...

[Crackerjack]

To be honest.. im not a big supporter of mods like these.. I have seen probably 50 of them: Hostile Intent, Fire Arms, Front Line Force, Move In, and tons more that never made it. Oh and Global Warfare or something like that... Anyways... the only mod that can something similiar to this would Desert Combat for BF 1942.. thats the only mod that i can play that has this kind of theme.. My suggestion is if your going to make a mod at all... Make it something from a movie or something completely original.. Thanks..

[mawibse]

From movies... Yes I see it now, these Dessert Eagle ridden teamplay mods exists by the dossens so lets make the Pr0n mod.

Have youre way with youre oponent with accessories from the P. North Dildo up to the "anal intruder 3000". Or just clubber youre enemy with what you got.

Lubricants, Viagra and tissues as powerups!

Hmm the "see youre body" takes an whole new meanings.... And fatigue would still apply, and so does the "sway" aiming... darn!

[jfas]

desert* eagle

[spine]

What is an original idea?

Who can come up with an idea wich has not been done before?

I mean a good idea, not some weed smoki'n beer can on his

adventures through neverland, but a good neverbefore made

in anyway original idea!!!!

I mean you are bound to make something that is reminding

someone about something made before, are you not?

Therefore an original idea in gaming sence will be in the small

print, the details, how it interacts with the player, the game layout,

the goal of it, the feel it gives the player.

Everything cant be brand new and never before seen,

that's the same way with music, it is, on the most part the same but

with slight variations.

If you are in to death metal and starting a band, you are going to

make music in that genre with a touch of your personality.

To a person who dont like that type of music it is not going to sound

any different, it's just going to be another one of those stupid

death metal bands with no originality!

My point is that if you dont like the type of game mawibse is aiming

for, it,s going to sound like just another CS game!

If he can make a game with a good feel,flow and gameplay,

why shouldnt that have a chance?

(I think)

[DD]

Creative and “creative idea” is significantly different.

No, they're not. All creative actions are creative ideas. You lose.

publishers just aren't willing to risk new ideas most of the time.

Really? One would think that publishers know that 95% of all “creative ideas” not translate into fun and therefore is crap and will sell as good as DD’s dictionary.

Publishers don't really know shit, thats why most developers hate them. And you still refuse to realize all the best games have been creative one. Congrats, you're an idiot.

… the games know better? And I’m ignorant?

You do know that ignorant means showing lack of education or knowledge right?

Yes, you have a lack of knowledge about what makes games fun. You lose. Good luck with your little mod, sounds like its going to suck. :wink:

[mawibse]

desert* eagle

Desert Eagle

bla bla whine whine. you lose.

Sigh, yes yes I loose, now go on and play with The_Postman, the grown ups needs to talk.

[kleinluka]

just be sure to add some AK-47's and MP5's and the like.. can never have enough of those!