Anthem and the peculiarities of modern monetization.

[blackdog]

6 hours ago, Radu said:

shooters, which were played by 48 per cent."

Thank you Fortnite for inflating the numbers and making me feel there's so many hardcore players around XD

[blackdog]

 

[blackdog]

Why do these things even exist??

[Radu]

Could do with a pizza about now

[-HP-]

24 minutes ago, Radu said:

Could do with a pizza about now

Gotta pay extra for that third slice tho.

[Buddy]

Obesity gives you XP too

[Lizard]

On 8/12/2020 at 4:41 AM, blackdog said:

Why do these things even exist??

[Radu]

"Electronic Arts faces €10 million fine over FIFA loot boxes in the Netherlands.

A study of loot boxes in ten videogames conducted in 2018 by the Netherlands Gaming Authority—the Kansspelautoriteit, or Ksa—determined that four of them were in violation of the country's gambling laws, and would have to be changed. No names were provided at the time, but the agency warned that "enforcement action" would be taken if the required changes weren't put into place by June 20 of that year.

In a statement released today, the Ksa said that most of the companies involved in the matter complied as required, but Electronic Arts did not, and as a result it's now facing fines of up to €10 million ($11.7 million): €5 against EA itself, and €5 million against EA Swiss Sàrl, a division of the company that processes payments in some countrries."

https://www.pcgamer.com/electronic-arts-faces-euro10-million-fine-over-fifa-loot-boxes-in-the-netherlands/

[ThunderKeil]

On 5/29/2020 at 6:55 PM, [HP] said:

Oh my lord... the entitlement!

Back in the day, when you bought Street Fighter II (or any other game) for the Genesis, it wouldn't run on the SNES or any other console.
It's hard enough to make a game for one platform, it's an extra pain in the ass to make it multi-platform, now there's this extra stuff to worry about? Yeah... no.

When you go out for a concert the ticket is valid for that one venue. 
When you go to a sports event, ticket is valid on that stadium
When you go to a restaurant, you can't order the food in a place, then claim you wanna eat it in another.

Creating the expectation that a video game (or any other software) needs to run on your kitchen toaster because you "bought the game" is so unrealistic it's almost comical.

totally replying to a 5 month old post rn but . . . is that an entitled sentiment?

geforce now is (was?) sold as a means of streaming pc games. *pc* games, not dreamcast, genesis, or ps2. At best (worst?) you could compare it to region locked titles, but to insinuate it's comparable to people complaining their genesis cartridges don't fit into their SNES is honestly just disingenuous, it's the same platform.

Noone is ''creating the expectation'' that x game should be able to run on my microwave, only that it should be able to stream a virtual pc to any streaming-capable device - which is so realistic I couldn't think of a snappy ending to this sentence

No, I'm not saying web streaming is a good way to play videogames - but neither is playing at 20 fps on a laptop and that never stopped anyone either

[blackdog]

9 hours ago, ThunderKeil said:

geforce now is (was?) sold as a means of streaming pc games. *pc* games, not dreamcast, genesis, or ps2. At best (worst?) you could compare it to region locked titles, but to insinuate it's comparable to people complaining their genesis cartridges don't fit into their SNES is honestly just disingenuous, it's the same platform.

Well no, Stadia and Now are different platforms, just like Steam, Gog or Uplay. You don’t buy a game on Uplay and expect it to appear on your Steam account.

 Just like you don’t expect to find Netflix exclusives on Amazon Prime Video.

I do get what you mean, I remember at the beginning of the smartphone era being kinda annoyed at the thought that if I changed from one OS to the other I would have to pay again for the same app. After all is not like I’m using it at the same time… but why should another company sustain the cost of distribution, for as little as it is, when you pay another company?

[ThunderKeil]

6 hours ago, blackdog said:

Well no, Stadia and Now are different platforms, just like Steam, Gog or Uplay. You don’t buy a game on Uplay and expect it to appear on your Steam account.

 Just like you don’t expect to find Netflix exclusives on Amazon Prime Video.

I do get what you mean, I remember at the beginning of the smartphone era being kinda annoyed at the thought that if I changed from one OS to the other I would have to pay again for the same app. After all is not like I’m using it at the same time… but why should another company sustain the cost of distribution, for as little as it is, when you pay another company?

That's true for stadia, sure, but GFN isn't advertised - as far as I was aware at all, but at any rate not primarily - as a competing storefront

It's a service that lets you stream a virtual pc, on which you can log into other storefronts - or at least steam - just as you would on your own device. If I were to log into my steam account at the library, a friend's house, or on campus - developers wouldn't have a say in whether or not I'm allowed to download my steam library on that device, why is this any different?*

*( that's the crux, simply - it's not about games being simply incompatible or unavailable, but rather that GFN needs to keep the game files on hand so the virtual machines don't re-download the same ones, slowly, from Valve's servers 234680 times a day, and developers/publishers refusing to sign off on that - in the eyes of the people in that image; because they think by refusing to make the game usable on GFN, people'll buy it again on stadia )

Edited November 3, 2020 by ThunderKeil

[Zarsky]

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but 2K sure knows monetization.

https://80.lv/articles/take-two-to-acquire-codemasters-for-usd900m/

[Radu]

I think this would go in the cost of games thread, but it's fine. Maybe we should merge those two threads idk. 

900m sounds like nothing after that Zenimax purchase by MS for 7.5b. Sure, it's not a conglomerate of studios, but still..

Edited November 11, 2020 by Radu

[dux]

16 hours ago, Zarsky said:

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but 2K sure knows monetization.

https://80.lv/articles/take-two-to-acquire-codemasters-for-usd900m/

RIP f1 and Dirt. Big monetisation incoming.

[blackdog]

3 hours ago, Radu said:

I think this would go in the cost of games thread, but it's fine. Maybe we should merge those two threads idk. 

900m sounds like nothing after that Zenimax purchase by MS for 7.5b. Sure, it's not a conglomerate of studios, but still..

Even that wasn’t that impressive, when compared to acquiring Minecraft/Mojang for 2B.

Considering the sheer amount of beloved IPs and studios Zenimax brought in, feels almost like a bargain

Edited November 11, 2020 by blackdog