[WIP] de_monaco

[jackophant]

B was already pretty hard to access as a T and that was before CTs had any proper height advantage. The whole main entrance for Ts into B is pretty convoluted:

• Straight ahead for an easily wallbangable (and destructible?) door
• Harsh right into very focussed alleyway, which CTs can camp from all kinds of angles.

I didn't find the route from mid to effectively really alleviate any of the access issues on B

[VIOLATION]

New update to the workshop here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574947704

 

Probably planning on setting up another playtest shortly.

[R.I.P 3.0]

Worked out a rough layout just with some bot playtesting over the past few days. Hoping to get a lot more on that done and get it tested it out on the server at some point.

This layout is unplayable. Each plant have only 1 linear way from T side. Map have bad structue. You need to improve the framework

Edited January 13, 2016 by R.I.P 3.0
oops, old version;)

[VIOLATION]

Yeah thankfully that was never actually a layout I tested for more than a day back when I was initially struggling

[VIOLATION]

It's been quite a while since the last update, but progress is still being made. A lot of work has gone into detailing the map and making more graphically pleasing recently, though I won't lie and will say I have been getting quite frustrated with creating the modern-city-look come off as natural while not seeming under-detailed or too bare. 

Regardless, here's some screens from the latest compile:

and here's an extra look at the building I created overlooking B bombsite and visible from a decent amount of the map as of now:

 

As always, cc/suggestions are greatly appreciated and encouraged.

 

Cheers.

[jackophant]

It all looks really nice, but one thing I would say is that a lot of areas look too dark due to shadows?

Also, I personally dislike the birds flapping around as they cast shadows and are quite distracting at times. Easily mistakable for grenades.

And one final thing: Using "mat_postprocess_enable 0" will get rid of the vignette in your screenshots (but also any colour correction)

[VIOLATION]

Back again, birds are gone.

Lots more buildings have been textured/new art pass, etc. Still kind of unhappy with how certain things are turning out but hoping to find the right balance soon enough. Also had a little skybox change (old one was bugging out so this is probably a temporary change) and still feel like I need to brighten some areas considering how many shadows there are (might end up entire redoing the lighting at some point)

As you can see it's a lot of custom assets for the most part, and I hope to continue to increase the amount of new content used in the map.

 

Anyways comments and criticism is greatly appreciated and encouraged as always, especially with a lot of the new detailing done to some areas. Planning on updating workshop/possibly running another playtest soon as well.

[jakuza]

Hey,

I can see this is turning into something special, so I thought I'd just point out one thing that really stuck out to me while looking at these.

This looks like something you'd expect to see in a final level, great polish, lots of detail. On the other hand...

This looks like something from a really early detail pass.

 

I know Monaco is really clean, but it comes off looking really unfinished in these shots. Subtle detail work on the ground areas will really pay off in tying everything together I think.

Sorry if this is something you were already planning, just my thoughts.

[etn]

Very nice! Hope to see this in a new operation!

[Pumbliss]

To start out, the layout of this map is very creative for clover and in fact probably the best clover I've seen

 

I could name pros for hours on this map, but currently it's even in gray wall, so I'll just go over kinda iffy things in my eyes:

• Currently the skybox is vertigo, and I know you're probably gonna change it, but if you weren't, make sure you do because it can cause weird things on glass.
• There are a lot of boosts out of the map that I'm certain you intend to clip out, but some of them should at least partially stay. This boost here on long A should be boostable up to the window frame but not any higher so that it's a nice angle against pushing CTs but not quite an overpowered out of map area.
• This car on A site could be a great AWPing angle, however it currently takes three body shots to kill. I recommend you make it slightly more bangable, and allow the car to only take two shots to the body with the AWP, 3 with the scout.
• At B site there aren't any good plant positions for terrorists, all positions are shown to CT, consider extending site maybe just a little to provide a small corner for terrorists to not be at risk for the 5 seconds.
• The opposite occurs at A site, where all plant positions are over-covered, consider shortening the wooden board on the path to the side of the site to allow easier view of heads of planters.

[maxlevelboi]

Wowa this is looking damn fine :D!