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Reserved for proper introduction post. Work in progress.

Player Fighting game ID's

  • AlexM - Alex McGilvray 
    • Platform ID's
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      • USF4 - ps3/pc
      • UMVC3 - ps3/vita
      • Xrd - ps3
      • KOFXIII - pc
      • MKX - ps4

Fighting game title acronym reference:

  • UMVC3 (or UMVC) - Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
  • MVC2 - Marvel vs Capcom 2
  • MVC - Marvel vs Capcom
  • USF4 - Ultimate Street Fighter 4
  • Xrd - Guilty Gear Xrd
  • KOF - King of Fighters. There are many KOF's so append the version as a postfix. For instance KOFXIII or KOF96
  • MKX - Mortal Kombat X 
  • MK9 - Mortal Kombat 9
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So I figured it's about time we start a dedicated thread on mapcore for fighting games discussion so we stop spamming up the "what have you been playing" thread with extended fighting games discussion. Hopefully I can change the title of this thread when different events occur. 

So who's watching EVO this weekend and if so what are you watching? 

I made sure I got all my work and a good portion of my home stuff out of the way so I can maximize my EVO time. I warned all my family and friends as well. Unfortunately the EVO USF4 initial brackets were all day friday. FORTUNATELY my work was understanding and there were about 3 people on my team second screening twitch so I got a good amount of viewing time. 

I'm currently watching UMVC3 and am toying with the thought of simultaneously watching the Guilty Gear Xrd stream. 

Highlights so far : 

  • Strider 801 taking a triple perfect over a 12 year old player. The 12 year old players response to the loss was more mature than most adults. He's got a bright FGC future.
  • A UMVC3 team consisting of Narohudo-Kun, Trish and Rocket Racoon. The announcers were at a loss on being able to describe what was happening. I would LOVE to see that team win EVO.
  • That dude playing Poonko taking off his shirt and putting it on Poonko's head. He unleashed an angry beast who also removed his shirt then proceeded to body. 
  • Valle beating Bonchan with Hugo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r6Ev7FvwtI

For USF I'm going for :

  • Smug - Because he's been such an upset this year and plays a nuts Dudley
  • Strider 801 - Because he plays Abel
  • Anyone who plays Makoto
  • Air - Vancouvers pride

I would have gone for Haitani but he doesn't play Makoto anymore :(

For UMVC3 I'm going for :

  • That guy with Narohudo-Kun in his team
  • Full Schedule, because he pisses off FChamp :D

 

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I have zero experience with fighting games so excuse my ignorance, but why do they use controllers like that? looks real uncomfy and not ergonomically at all. Is it a traditional or nostalgia thing like people buying music on vinyl again?

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I have zero experience with fighting games so excuse my ignorance, but why do they use controllers like that? looks real uncomfy and not ergonomically at all. Is it a traditional or nostalgia thing like people buying music on vinyl again?

It's because most fighting games haven't evolved from the Street Fighter style, so you need 6x2 buttons (Low/Med/High kicks and punches) plus the stick uses switches so doing direction-based specials is really easy compared to a traditional playstation style analog stick or d-pad.  That being said, gamecube controller is still the best fighter controller and no one can tell me different

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I have zero experience with fighting games so excuse my ignorance, but why do they use controllers like that? looks real uncomfy and not ergonomically at all. Is it a traditional or nostalgia thing like people buying music on vinyl again?

Warning : My opinion

Games like street fighter are essentially unplayable with a gamepad because you need to be able to get from one button to the next with often very short frame windows. When all the buttons are laid out over your hand it's easier to transition. 

I would say the mortal kombat series is an exception though. It has less buttons but it also has block as a button. Trying to hold block on an arcade stick while trying to transition out to other buttons is futile. With a gamepad you can have your back index finger hold down block and leave your thumb free to react. That said having a button for block sucks and I think netherworld agrees by the fact they used back for block in Injustice. 

I much prefer joysticks, not just for fighting games but for arcade games too. 

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I recently bought one of those TE2 ps4 sticks. They are nice! I love how everything is easy access and the cord can be tucked away. 

I also just started getting into ultra (for pc), it's.... ok? XD

I have to buy a ps4 this week. 

 

Is this the TE2 madcatz ones with the sanwa parts? I have the SF4 evo one from a few years back and in regards to the actual buttons it's probably the best. They are ultra loose. 

I started a player ID list at the top of the screen if you are interested, leave your name in this thread and I'll keep it updated.

I seem to remember us playing a couple years back on steam and you were quite good Jason :)

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So I got into the Rising Thunder alpha, then once again realized that I'm awful at "real" fighters.  Is there a good way of learning how to do combos and such/how to not be a babby?

Rising Thunder is actually built with that in mind. I think there's not even a concept of a fireball or joystick-button motion. Is that correct? 

 

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Rising Thunder is actually built with that in mind. I think there's not even a concept of a fireball or joystick-button motion. Is that correct? 

 

yeah, there is just low/med/high and 3 specials.  I'm wondering about actually stringing that stuff together, how do I even start figuring that out?

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I'm not familiar with that game but considering he's taking the friendly route I would guess that all characters have a similar progression. Usually that means pressing weak-medium-strong in sequence. 

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Yeah, that seems to be right, then what past that?  Just experiment or no-life it and spend all my time on reddit?

 

That's probably the biggest mistake beginners make. Combos are not what you should be focusing on. You should be focusing on the fundamentals and making sure that every action you do doesn't leave you in a deficit. 

Being good at combo execution is only useful if you can get to a point where you can actually execute a combo. 

 

 

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