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Hey guys, has anyone noticed if recently there was a FF update? Because it's been a few days that I'm prompted to update Flash and that most sites would trigger a "Slow script, stop?" error message... Gmail and most holiday sites (trying to book).

I have updated Flash two days ago but still FF slow and script errors.

Tonight in desperation tried IE, which was working ok for the most part, now every airbnb tab i close it gives me a message "IE stopped working".

Ye I have Chrome, but I have a big session saved there and I don't want to fuck it up. This is beside the point anyway, all browsers should perform decently... especially on a new computer with i7 and loads of RAM.

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The time is definitely right for Flash to die. It was set into motion years ago by Apple, and enough of the web can now operate just fine without it.

The only sad thing is that a large part of the web's history will be inaccessible. I don't know about anyone else — and this might be something that more people do as they get older and the internet is literally part of them growing up — but I do like occasionally going through the Internet Archive and checking out old sites from the 90s and 2000s, many of which I visited or even created.

It's unfortunate that as a result of killing Flash, swathes of old sites won't work properly any more. Especially when you consider that those who build the internet have worked so hard to make things backwards compatible so that virtually everything except Flash still works just fine, even on a website from 1995. How many kinds of technology can you say that about?

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Sorry forgot I posted, still getting a choppy experience with Youtube on Firefox, yesterday got the "stop script" message, but in general just opening tabs of videos slooows down the browser. As well as Gmail.
Version is Firefox 39.0

Shouldn't Youtube be HTML5 anyway? Is not like I'm getting messages from FF that Flash has been blocked.

OT: It's funny that the people that were shooting Apple down when they decided not to support Flash on iOS, now are the bigger proposer or opposition to Flash. Yes like Google, those that at the time were mocking Apple from the I/O stage.

In terms of web history I can't believe they can't do an open flash player just for retro compatibility.

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One factor that might be at play is whether or not the GPU is being used. It could be that the GPU is being used for rendering the video and it's not very powerful, or it could be that the GPU isn't being used and that's the cause of the slowdown (not all implementations of HTML5 video used the GPU at one point, not sure if it's still the case).

It's easy to underestimate how demanding rendering a large HD video can be, so this could well be a factor. If you find that it's better in other browsers it may be because Firefox's implementation is a bit shoddy.

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One factor that might be at play is whether or not the GPU is being used. It could be that the GPU is being used for rendering the video and it's not very powerful, or it could be that the GPU isn't being used and that's the cause of the slowdown (not all implementations of HTML5 video used the GPU at one point, not sure if it's still the case).

It's easy to underestimate how demanding rendering a large HD video can be, so this could well be a factor. If you find that it's better in other browsers it may be because Firefox's implementation is a bit shoddy.

Didn't notice your reply.

I have a Geforce GTX 970M and yesterday FF was so stiff I had to open Chrome again after long and I don't have any problem I encounter with FF. That's why since my first post I asked if anyone had noticed an update to FF ;) 

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