Conservative Religious Right crosses the line in Florida.

[RD]

To quote a genius:

"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.

It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

[Kosmo]

science considers nothing as truth. We can never be 100% certain of anything

Yes but when presented with sufficient amount of scientific proof, that something is considered as a fact, the closest thing of absolute truth humankind has, just like with other man made things, like justice for example, there are not always abolute proofs but when sufficient amount of proofs is presented, a certain group of people consider it as truth, and that is all even science has to do.

[-Stratesiz-]

Ingnorance is the main cause for the birth of religions. Everything must be explained somehow. Some religions have a god, some have a dozen, some have none. In sum, religion does not equal god.

Science is fact based and tangible. We know the earth orbits the sun thanks to science. We also know crocodiles are nothing more than bigass reptiles, as opposed to being gods like in some religions in Africa.

Faith in something more powerful than man gives hope and structure to a variety of circumstances, which is why people created religions in the first place.

Science gives factual structure. We know what water is, we know the moon orbits earth. What science does not offer is mental comfort, that there is something protecting us from all bad things and such, etc, which is why people accept the idea of something greater than us. It's corny, but faith in physical terms can make a person stronger.

Religion wants to naively explain the unexplainable. Science, on the other hand, wants to give a rational and theoretical explanation to things that some day can be proven as a cold fact, like the world is not flat for example.

Period.

[GrayFox]

Faith in something more powerful than man gives hope and structure to a variety of circumstances, which is why people created religions in the first place.

Absolutely.

I think religion is the embodyment of the biggest weaknesses and strengths of the human being.

[RD]

Religion wants to naively explain the unexplainable. Science, on the other hand, wants to give a rational and theoretical explanation to things that some day can be proven as a cold fact, like the world is not flat for example.

Period.

Religion isnt a book that tries to explain evrything. Its a person trying to understand it, these days with the help of science.

Science wants to give a rational and theoretical explanation for evrything, but doesnt. So what do you think about things science doesnt try to explain, for example, what created evrything? You dont think about them at all, and call religious ppl naive because they do? Or maybe you do think about it sometimes. Well these thoughts have nothing to do with science because science cant explore this terrain yet. Your thoughts about what created evrything are just as naive as what ppl call religion, with the only difference being that you exclude the possibility of god, something science has never done or tried, because it cant.

How can u exclude something u dont know what it is?

[GrayFox]

Religion wants to naively explain the unexplainable. Science, on the other hand, wants to give a rational and theoretical explanation to things that some day can be proven as a cold fact, like the world is not flat for example.

Period.

Religion isnt a book that tries to explain evrything. Its a person trying to understand it, these days with the help of science.

Science wants to give a rational and theoretical explanation for evrything, but doesnt. So what do you think about things science doesnt try to explain, for example, what created evrything? You dont think about them at all, and call religious ppl naive because they do? Or maybe you do think about it sometimes. Well these thoughts have nothing to do with science because science cant explore this terrain yet. Your thoughts about what created evrything are just as naive as what ppl call religion, with the only difference being that you exclude the possibility of god, something science has never done or tried, because it cant.

How can u exclude something u dont know what it is?

But religion is religion, not speculation. What makes religion naive is that they blindly believe whatever it is that they believe in and call any other view blasphemy (referring mostly to christianity).

[Pericolos0]

why are we still discussing?

can we all agree that god has no place in science as long as no evidence points to it but that god still is a possibility and that religion is a personal thing and should not interfere with state

[Kosmo]

Faith in something more powerful than man gives hope and structure to a variety of circumstances, which is why people created religions in the first place.

Truer words were never spoken caped crusader. Man doesn't want to take responsibility on things he does not completely understand, like microwave oven, if the fucker killed my cat, how the hell was I supposed to know it'd do that? The problem would be BALLS, and the lack of them.

why are we still discussing?

can we all agree that god has no place in science as long as no evidence points to it but that god still is a possibility and that religion is a personal thing and should not interfere with state

We discuss this, for the sake of discussing it, just to show off our intellectual prowess, just like why does people drive very fast cars and lift heavy weights, you can drop the wheights just like that and walk away, but you still would turn to take a look at our faces if we would be mocking you. The pride won't let you keep your mouth shut, on the matter. Or can it? Proof me wrong.

[Steppenwolf]

If i have learned one thing from experiments with psychedelic drugs then this is that science trys to explain only the surface of that what we call reality

And there is so much more under this surface WOOOOAHHHHHH

[Kosmo]

If i have learned one thing from experiments with psychedelic drugs then this is that science trys to explain only the surface of that what we call reality

And there is so much more under this surface WOOOOAHHHHHH

I don't know how much of gathered data can be used since most of it is smudged by munchies and we ran out of color pencils, but I'd say that this study shows the importance of banking on the world view by Carebears and Ducktales.

[RD]

Imagine if we were all born with an xtc pill inside our brain, our reality would be totally different and science completely transformed

[Kosmo]

Imagine if we were all born with an xtc pill inside our brain, our reality would be totally different and science completely transformed

And how do you know that supposed situation is not occuring right now? What if everything we think is real is just a twisted view of real world because some sort of experiment humans did tens of thousands of years ago, maybe the so called tripping is the perseption of the real world where we are originally from.

[JynxDaddy]

Man thats deep.

[Steppenwolf]

maybe the so called tripping is the perseption of the real world where we are originally from.

This is actualy one of the most common experiences that people have on psychedelic trips. It is a feeling like awaking or coming home and it feels more real then that what we usualy call reality.

Tripping is grazy Matrix shit

[Kosmo]

Tripping is grazy Matrix shit

Awright, and I take your word for it