grapen Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 I say that and then proceed to win 6 in a row in a very convincing fashion as Zarya. She's so incredibly strong in pugs. Dream confirmed to be alive. Fnugz and -HP- 2 Quote
Jetsetlemming Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 I occasionally get good teams set up and we roll well, but then it falls apart and I never see those new friends online again. Battlenet/Overwatch's inferface for grouping feels way worse than Steam's. Quote
Pampers Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 ITT: people soloing matchmaking, complaining about the inevitable negative experience. Never solo queue team based competetive games, ofc you will get stomped if the other team have squaded up Fnugz 1 Quote
Bastion Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 Hero pick stats for ELeague week 3 qualifiers Half of the hero roster is almost unused. Also sucks to be mercy or hanzo since they're not even touched. 'RZL, -HP-, Jetsetlemming and 4 others 7 Quote
FMPONE Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 Shocking IMO. Some of the most interesting heroes being totally disfavored. The game feels great in pubs, but you kinda hope something changes there. Watching a Lucio play would be a lot duller than a Mercy, for instance. I'm fine with Bastion and Torb being rarer, but Hanzo? Mei? Widowmaker? Roadhog!? Pharah!!? As a spectator of course I want to see rockets flying everywhere and people getting hooked. -HP- 1 Quote
grapen Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 On 2016-08-10 at 7:22 PM, (HP) said: lol, are you soloing? Yup I soloq almost exclusively! Mission accomplished today. Smooth sailing from here on: -HP- and FMPONE 2 Quote
2d-chris Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 To be fair, even without nerfs and buffs, the meta evolves over time. Of course balancing has to do with that, but still, it's no different in DOTA 2 with the exception they have a lot more heroes, last years international was boring because the same 15 or so where picked constantly. This year isn't much different just with another 15 heroes, but at least they changed (mostly) Overwatch is in it's infancy for Esports, We'll see nice changes over time in hero picks and strats. Once the game has been out a few years, you'll be seeing the previous meta, current meta and evolving meta go head to head. grapen, FMPONE and -HP- 3 Quote
-HP- Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 54 minutes ago, 2d-chris said: To be fair, even without nerfs and buffs, the meta evolves over time. Of course balancing has to do with that, but still, it's no different in DOTA 2 with the exception they have a lot more heroes, last years international was boring because the same 15 or so where picked constantly. This year isn't much different just with another 15 heroes, but at least they changed (mostly) Overwatch is in it's infancy for Esports, We'll see nice changes over time in hero picks and strats. Once the game has been out a few years, you'll be seeing the previous meta, current meta and evolving meta go head to head. This, so much this. I think the game hasn't been out long enough to make an accurate call on this, and like Chris said the meta will change over time. imho, roadhog and junkrat are some of the best classes for competitive and they're on the lower half of that list, that really amazes me. FMPONE and 2d-chris 2 Quote
Jetsetlemming Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 Maybe I should put more qp time into McCree. I find aiming with him to be a lot more difficult than Soldier, but the pros seem to think he's roughly 100x better. My most played hero is Zenyatta and I totally see why he's so common, though. Enormous damage output, healing, relatively small target, he's perfect. <3 Shocking that Mercy is completely unused. I know she's the weakest healer, but I figured the clutch value of revive would at least get a few token uses. -HP- 1 Quote
-HP- Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 If i were to guess it's because Mercy is always the prime target of any encounter. She has her dodge, but usually when people see a mercy they all focus on her until she's dead, for obvious reasons. At least when i play her, i find that I'm constantly getting shot at, way more than any other class, or if i play any other hero. Being the best healer, which she deffo is, kind of plays against her. Quote
Jetsetlemming Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, (HP) said: If i were to guess it's because Mercy is always the prime target of any encounter. She has her dodge, but usually when people see a mercy they all focus on her until she's dead, for obvious reasons. At least when i play her, i find that I'm constantly getting shot at, way more than any other class, or if i play any other hero. Being the best healer, which she deffo is, kind of plays against her. Ana can actually heal faster than her if she's accurate with her needle shots, incredibly. The most common hero that is hunting and murdering me as a healer, at my level of play, is Pharah, because she can fly over the heads of the frontline to shoot past them. She's really uncommon in that pro chart, though... huh. I'll see if I can find videos of some of these matches. Genji's the only really common flanker, and he's great in really skilled players' hands obv, but in my experience Symmetra actually hard counters him because he can't reflect or dodge her beam. Edited August 12, 2016 by Jetsetlemming Quote
-HP- Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 Right, but 1. You need to be a really good fucking shot with Ana to be classified as a better healer than Mercy, and 2. Ana can just stay behind the frontlines and be safe whereas as a Mercy you need to be in the middle of it all to do your job, you can still hide behind a tank of course but usually you're much closer to danger. I don't know, that's my theory on why pro players avoid her for now. Quote
Tisky Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 I like Ana but i hate when i almost kill a sniper but a teammate walks past me and i end up healing a fully healed hero instead of killing that sniper, and then dying. Fml feeling Jetsetlemming 1 Quote
Jetsetlemming Posted August 12, 2016 Report Posted August 12, 2016 58 minutes ago, Tisky said: I like Ana but i hate when i almost kill a sniper but a teammate walks past me and i end up healing a fully healed hero instead of killing that sniper, and then dying. Fml feeling Yeah I really wish they would make shots pass through fully healed heroes. It's not like fully dead enemies stop the shots! Quote
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