On the Verge by Petr "HurracioDurrski" Švenda

[HurracioDurrski]

Hi,

 

i want to participate

 

currently deciding on layout and desing so i will post some screens later

[HurracioDurrski]

so i finally started working on my map, have this little piece so far

 

 

 

[Sprony]

Is that patch work for the vaulted ceilings or did you import it as a model?

[HurracioDurrski]

Is that patch work for the vaulted ceilings or did you import it as a model?

 

its patches, i always did everything right in the radiant.

 

i recently started learning blender, and importing game assets to unreal engine and mostly had problems with unwrapping, baking, lightmaps etc. and what experienced people model for 30-60 minutes im making whole day . i dont have really much time to learn this for quake 3.

i had some design that will be better or need model making but i probably pass it and try to do everything in radiant. hope i finish the map in time and somehow optimized.

[HurracioDurrski]

some progress, not sure if i should keep that stairs.
 also anybody know how much curved surfaces have hit on performance ? i dont want to end with low fps...

 

[Hipshot]

Make sure you stay around 40k tris, then it won't matter how many patches you use.

 

Or well, don't use too many =) But the imit is pretty high I think, I never had any issues with using plenty of them.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Hipshot

[1nfern0]

I did a test with ~90k tris and my fps dropped from constant 90 to 82, if I turn arround very fast. And I dont have a monster pc.

Just make sure to increase the hunkmegs, or q3 crashes while loading.

 

 

Nice gothic architecture

[HurracioDurrski]

thanks guys, by the way isnt hunkmegs set higher in console? other people would need to increase it too and that doesnt much ok i think.

 

I have old computer, but its builded good so it runs new AAA games, and laptop that has very bad gfx and cant even run quake live on 125fps with picmip settings or Rune (UT99 engine i think), so i will test on it too.

 

iam also using lot of that stonewall and rust texture combination in my gothic maps but it isnt exactly polycount friendly

 

 

[HurracioDurrski]

OK noob question, where can i get polycount for my map after rendering a cant find it anywhere

[Sprony]

OK noob question, where can i get polycount for my map after rendering a cant find it anywhere

 

/r_showtris, this draws the level as polygons being rendered by Q3.

 

/r_speeds, this shows a readout of the number of polygons being rendered.

 

/r_lockpvs, this culls areas of the map outside the leaf node that you occupy at the time of enabling.

[Hipshot]

r_clear and r_lightmap are also useful commands, sometimes r_fastsky is nice too.

[HurracioDurrski]

thanks, well it shows i have average of 15k leafs and vertices but triangles are 0.00

or i should divide verts by 3 ?

 

[Hipshot]

Ok, like this:


NNN/NNN TRIS

 

First numbers are triangles in a single pass (like with basic textures as base_wall/concrete_dark), this is your raw triangle count.

 

Second numbers are triangles i several passes (when you have textures with several stages to them, like ctf/killblockctf_b, which has 4 additional stages inside the shader, because it's rotating and shit)

 

You should know that everything you see on the screen adds to these numbers, not just the level, you can directly deduct ~800-1000 tris, if you display your weapon, hud and the r_speeds numbers themselves that are something around ~400 tris. A letter/number is 2 triangles so.

[HurracioDurrski]

oh i see, thanks

 

damn so i have already 15k tris

 

also finished my stairs, its a goddamn mess

 

[Hipshot]

You should know that patches adds a lot of (dynamic cause of LOD) triangles, even if this can be modified through console commands in game, you really should treat your tri-count as if everyone were running on max settings and no special console commands or whatever.