De_tuscan beta discussion

[SirK]

Ive told him several Times that the Map looks bad and he should get some help. I got the same answer everytime: "Im Brute, Im know what Im doing, it will be played not matter how it looks". I was trying to give him some solid feedback and Stuff he could / had to change before releasing it to the public. But his ego was stronger than my arguments obviously.

-For me the Map looks like a basic Brushwork with some props attached to it. He has to change most of the buildings - especially the white / blue ones, they still -look some weird cs / cs:s surreal building.

-He has to work on the lighting and fix the cascade bugs all scattered around in the map.

-Clipping - obviously

-Rework most of the texture work he has done and check for blending player models. There are some places like mid and banana where the background is just too noisy

-get some archmodels, that arches have to be a joke (they were like the first thing i pointed out)

I dont like brute as a person, he was a inspriration to my at some point in the past. But with things like "No worries everyone has an opinion, it's hilarious that people still believe that I've worked on this project nonstop for 3 years when in reality it's only been about 8-9 months of on/off working on it." said, i cant find anything good at this guy (from his facebook page). The community wanted this map so badly, he said "I want to build it, noone else is allowed to!" and he teased them all for almost 3 years. Saying something like that afterwards just shows how immature he is and is a punch in everyones face who supported him and his work. Nuff said

Edited September 11, 2014 by SirK

[Vaya]

 

How long (realistically) would it take to resolve all the issues with this version of the map?

Edited September 11, 2014 by Vaya

[Radix]

Well, the map isn't that bad, but really not impressive, especially not after almost 3 years.

But he seems to be right when he says:

 

"Im Brute, I know what Im doing, it will be played not matter how it looks".

 

He got tons of subscribers and obviously good raitings (currently #6 top rated all time).

Sometimes I don't understand the community...

Edited September 11, 2014 by Raidix

[Vinneri]

Well, the map isn't that bad, but really not impressive, especially not after almost 3 years.

But he seems to be right when he says:

 

"Im Brute, I know what Im doing, it will be played not matter how it looks".

 

He got tons of subscribers and obviously good raitings (currently #6 top rated all time).

Sometimes I don't understand the community...

It's like HL3. It's gonna sell well even if it sucks.

[cashed]

The workshop page needs a rework. my current de_season has 98k subs and solid ratings, yet is buried on the 2nd page.

[SirK]

yep its pretty flawed :/

[Vaya]

Brute has updated the map based on feedback. A good sign I think. 

He's getting far too much hate from the community just now, it's way too harsh on content creators.

[cashed]

I think the competitive community just really needs to focus on playing the maps, having fun, and providing feedback. Otherwise, it just demotivates the map creators.

[SirK]

taking 2 years to get the map to this state - i dont think there is much motivation in the first place Releasing something like this always gets you hate and bad feedback. But i like that he is updating the map (Not that most of the stuff mentioned should be fixxed before a PUBLIC beta). After all this hate and feedback he got, i think he is back on the right track

So basically it was good that he got exactly this reaction from the community to show him that he is not "the allmighty brute"

[Buddy]

what the fuck is this about

[FMPONE]

Alright guys. Time to close this one I think. If you'd like to give more feedback I recommend the steam page for the map.

[General Vivi]

In after the lock! 

 

You guys should play nice next time!

 

This person clearly worked hard on this level and you need to show them respect!

 

Lets keep Mapcore professional. 

 

-Vivi