will2k Posted September 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Didn't see you updated this until now. Thanks for putting the effort into making this! Do you have them in downloadable pdf form by any chance? Hey buddy, thanks for dropping by It's only HTML version hosted on-site at Gamebanana I'm afraid, but you can save the page as "web page complete" or "mhtml" and then convert it to PDF if this is easier for you to read or review later Thanks again for the support. Squad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2k Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Since the "status update" feature was removed, I decided to resurrect this thread from over a year ago.My new article is live "Source Engine PVS - A Closer Look" http://gamebanana.com/articles/72A follow-up to my previous article "Demystifying Source Engine Visleaves", this one is a technical article where I delve into more details about the PVS creation and visibility calculation and their implication on optimization in the Source engine.Cheers and enjoy the read. Edit: For easier access and ease of use for anyone consulting this thread, I will gather all the links to my optimization papers and articles below.Man vs. Engine (March 2013)Optimization Testing in Source Engine (April 2014)Hints about Hints - Practical guide on hint brushes placement (June 2014)Practical guide on areaportals placement (August 2014)Practical Guide on Occluders Placement (September 2014)Common Misconceptions in Source Engine Optimization (September 2015)Comparative fps study in Source Engine Optimization System (September 2015)Demystifying Source Engine Visleaves (November 2015)Source Engine PVS - A Closer Look (November 2015) On a related note, I will start writing new papers and articles for the "core" very soon, and publish them right here on Mapcore. Stay tuned tomm, Squad, Beck and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2k Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Greetings I published today a new article that I hope should prove helpful for many CS map makersQuick Guide to Competitive CSGO DesignIt's an article that lists the good competitive mapping practices that every designer should use as guideline and quick reference guide when creating their competitive CSGO map.Cheers and enjoy the read Lizard, Squad, Fnugz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Exodus Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm writing a guide aswell which is more or less covering the same thing. "The dos and don'ts of Counter-Strike Level Design" I guess i am late now. :< Although i write about a few more topics. But yours is offering a better reading experience I hope i can finish it soon. will2k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yikes, I need to read alot of these. I've read a bit of Man Vs. Engine and it was super helpful. It's awesome that there is someone like you out there to help with the really technical side of map-making in source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2k Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm writing a guide aswell which is more or less covering the same thing. "The dos and don'ts of Counter-Strike Level Design" I guess i am late now. :< Although i write about a few more topics. But yours is offering a better reading experience I hope i can finish it soon.The topic is vast and there is always room for more articles; the more the merrier Yikes, I need to read alot of these. I've read a bit of Man Vs. Engine and it was super helpful. It's awesome that there is someone like you out there to help with the really technical side of map-making in source. Thank you just trying to help with whatever I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laminutederire Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 @will2k Are you afraid source 2 will change everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2k Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 @will2k Are you afraid source 2 will change everything? Not at all change is needed, rather required; today, not even tomorrow.Source is a nice engine but it's old...read limiting and frustrating at times. What worked quite well for Carmack & Co in 1995 does not necessarily work well in 2015. Software rendering is no more and hardware limitations are more or less a thing from the past.Granted that Source is very easy to get into and its additive geometry is easy to work with, but once you get more acquainted with it, you start to realize the huge constraints: brushes, invalid structures, concave shapes, rounding errors, bsp, pvs, baked lighting...From the little I read about source2 over a year ago, I know that brushes are replaced with meshes, concave shapes are now allowed and bsp is no more, which leads me to speculate that it will be a real time GPU-dependent occlusion for the visibility calculations.Source is a solid engine, don't get me wrong but now is the correct time to make the move otherwise UE4 and Unity are gaining ground rapidly and will start taking away big chunks of Source's market share and "engine of preference" among designers/modders.Yes, this will mean that whatever I know about Source might become obsolete with source2 and I'll have to learn everything from scratch about the "new" technology but that's fine; sitting for too long in the comfort zone makes one complacent :). A change is necessary to shake things up and open new horizons.And in case I don't like what I see in source 2 then there is always UE4 El_Exodus and Squad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laminutederire Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Not at all change is needed, rather required; today, not even tomorrow.Source is a nice engine but it's old...read limiting and frustrating at times. What worked quite well for Carmack & Co in 1995 does not necessarily work well in 2015. Software rendering is no more and hardware limitations are more or less a thing from the past.Granted that Source is very easy to get into and its additive geometry is easy to work with, but once you get more acquainted with it, you start to realize the huge constraints: brushes, invalid structures, concave shapes, rounding errors, bsp, pvs, baked lighting...From the little I read about source2 over a year ago, I know that brushes are replaced with meshes, concave shapes are now allowed and bsp is no more, which leads me to speculate that it will be a real time GPU-dependent occlusion for the visibility calculations.Source is a solid engine, don't get me wrong but now is the correct time to make the move otherwise UE4 and Unity are gaining ground rapidly and will start taking away big chunks of Source's market share and "engine of preference" among designers/modders.Yes, this will mean that whatever I know about Source might become obsolete with source2 and I'll have to learn everything from scratch about the "new" technology but that's fine; sitting for too long in the comfort zone makes one complacent :). A change is necessary to shake things up and open new horizons.And in case I don't like what I see in source 2 then there is always UE4 I wish they will hurry I'm no expert, so correct me if I'm wrong, but... aren't the pbr pipelines very powerful and another argument why artists will move to something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2k Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I wish they will hurry I'm no expert, so correct me if I'm wrong, but... aren't the pbr pipelines very powerful and another argument why artists will move to something else?Who says Source2 won't have PBR somewhere down the line or a similar rendering technique for realistic lighting calculation Source2 is not "officially" released yet (as in available for free to the public in its complete form as revealed earlier this year); the portion that got into Dota2 couple of months ago is the tip of the iceberg as far as I can tell. Many features/tools are still unreleased and Valve being Valve, most of the technical features are still not fully disclosed.I guess we will have to wait for a major release from Valve (HL3?? or L4D3) to push the engine to its limits and showcase its full technical features.I'm aware that UE4/Unity/Frostbite engines already have PBR with realistic/stunning results and streamlined workflow for artists/programmers, so that's an advantage over source 2 right now, but remember that source1 was an "incremental" engine, benefiting from incremental new features along its existence (ep1, orange box, l4d, portal2, etc.). I believe source 2 will follow a similar path, and if PBR is not there at release, it will find its way somewhere in a future update.I'm not defending source 2 though (haven't used it nor do I know its technical features inside-out); even with PBR and other features implemented, it could turn out to be an "inferior" engine compared to the current ones that incorporate PBR. In this case, there could be an "exodus" towards UE4 or Unity...time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laminutederire Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Who says Source2 won't have PBR somewhere down the line or a similar rendering technique for realistic lighting calculation Source2 is not "officially" released yet (as in available for free to the public in its complete form as revealed earlier this year); the portion that got into Dota2 couple of months ago is the tip of the iceberg as far as I can tell. Many features/tools are still unreleased and Valve being Valve, most of the technical features are still not fully disclosed.I guess we will have to wait for a major release from Valve (HL3?? or L4D3) to push the engine to its limits and showcase its full technical features.I'm aware that UE4/Unity/Frostbite engines already have PBR with realistic/stunning results and streamlined workflow for artists/programmers, so that's an advantage over source 2 right now, but remember that source1 was an "incremental" engine, benefiting from incremental new features along its existence (ep1, orange box, l4d, portal2, etc.). I believe source 2 will follow a similar path, and if PBR is not there at release, it will find its way somewhere in a future update.I'm not defending source 2 though (haven't used it nor do I know its technical features inside-out); even with PBR and other features implemented, it could turn out to be an "inferior" engine compared to the current ones that incorporate PBR. In this case, there could be an "exodus" towards UE4 or Unity...time will tell yeah valve is bad with communication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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