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Are counter-strike maps property of valve?


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My guess would be yes, but I'm not sure. I know Blizzard (nowadays) owns all mods made from the day they changed their EULA a couple of years ago, wouldn't suprise me if Valve did the same.

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Completely unknown I would think, unless there has been a court case where someone has fought over it.

 

They can place whatever they like in their EULA, doesn't make it legal. This is a huge thing that people seem to overlook when agreeing/signing contracts. If something in there doesn't follow a specific law, then it doesn't matter.

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So you're saying that if an EULA/Contract goes against any law it is nullified? How does that work with multiple-nationalities? 

An EULA can only really go as far as saying they can ban you from their services under any condition they care for I believe.

 

And in a contract only the clause that is illegal would be nullified I believe.

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Creator owns the copyright to the design, not to the content unless it's self made. You can share the map free but not sell it. Also, if you submit it to the workshop, Valve owns basically all of it after that.

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Creator owns the copyright to the design, not to the content unless it's self made. You can share the map free but not sell it. Also, if you submit it to the workshop, Valve owns basically all of it after that.

Hey ICS,

 

Glad to see you here on the core. Haven't seen on GB for a long time.

 

To OP: what ICS mentioned is true.

 

You can refer to the Steam subscriber agreement for further details especially sections 2C, 3D, 6A and 6B (http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/)

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So you're saying that if an EULA/Contract goes against any law it is nullified? How does that work with multiple-nationalities? 

yeah you cant write a contract that would do something illegal. IIRC it invalidates the entire contract in Canada (even the parts that are legal).

 

My guess is that if you created all the content yourself then it's yours (brushwork, models, textures etc) otherwise you have to strip out everything else.

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Creator owns the copyright to the design, not to the content unless it's self made. You can share the map free but not sell it. Also, if you submit it to the workshop, Valve owns basically all of it after that.

What do you mean by design and how it is different from content?

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Design is the structure. Content is what the structure is built out of (and enhanced with).

So if I build certain type of map layout, I own exclusive right for that layout? I am not sure how this makes sense if I dont have any copyright for the actual map content.

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Design is the structure. Content is what the structure is built out of (and enhanced with).

So if I build certain type of map layout, I own exclusive right for that layout? I am not sure how this makes sense if I dont have any copyright for the actual map content.

 

It would be interesting to reverse engineer a custom made map and label each component with its owner and see how much you "really" own.

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Design is the structure. Content is what the structure is built out of (and enhanced with).

So if I build certain type of map layout, I own exclusive right for that layout? I am not sure how this makes sense if I dont have any copyright for the actual map content.

 

 

The layout is your intellectual property, as it originates from your mind. If you didn't make any of the models/textures/whatever, then you can obviously not own that map content.

Think of your layout as a greyboxed map, stripped from all stock and custom content.

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