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I wouldn't worry, the Crytek HQ is several blocks away from Maidan.

 

Do you mean what is the situation as a whole or what happened yesterday?

 

If the former... how long have you got...?!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

 

If the latter... it's not exactly clear, but before events went to shit, the protesters marched to the Parliament building and demanded the parties discuss a draft of the 2004 constitution in an effort to curb Yanukovich's powers...

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"Thousands of my people all over the country" - In the Western part of Ukraine mostly, there is barely any activity from Euromaidan in the Eastern part. Protesters have failed and been kicked out of Nikolayev, Kharkov, Odessa and Zaporozhye and the Crimea is seeking to leave Ukraine for Russia if shit hits the fan.

 

"Free from a dictatorship" - Yanukovich was democratically elected by a majority, you can scream and shout all you want about corruption and rigged elections, fact is even the OSCE observed the polling to be free and fair. Out of his five year term, he has a single year left to serve. All these comparisons to Gaddafi etc are retarded.

 

"Ready to shoot to beat, to injure" - Yeah because protesters would never do anything like that would they?

 

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etc...

 

"We want our courts not to be corrupted" - Can't argue with that one.

 

"That's not a Soviet Union" - USSR collapsed in 1991.

 

"Those men will murder us one after another" - Oh come on.. can you say hyperbole.. because the police will deliberately murder people without any possible repercussions...!

 

"I ask you to build this freedom in our country" It's your own problem, build it yourself!

 

This is like history repeating itself... people didn't agree on Yanukovich winning the elections in 2004 so the Orange Revolution followed and then Viktor resigned and Yukashenko became the rightful president instead and he completely failed in all expectations.. so they voted Yanukovich in and now they've decided they don't want him anymore (again)... Tough! Wait till 2015 and vote him out of office like we westerners do with our politicians. All this just because he wouldn't sign an agreement with the EU even though it was never officially written in stone anyway (that and not so insignificant part of the population oppose joining the EU). As if the EU would actually have Ukraine anyway... Turkey applied what... 30 years ago? Are they in yet? Nyet.

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I find it hard to believe that the EU would allow them in. The country faces it's third financial crisis since 2008 and is highly depended on Russia's money and gas. The EU is already crippled by Greece, Spain and Italy. There's no sane reasoning in taking on another money pit.

 

These are just facts, not hating on the people or anything like that.

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To be honest i started the topic after seeing the picture below.

I vaguely know the reasons, i confess i didn't dig in what's happening (i'm keeping up with the shit that's happening in Italy via facebook reposts of news - and i'm so nauseated that i can't really accept to dig deep). Mostly, since we have several Crytek employees here, i was curious to know if their guys are well and all... i'm trying to picture the fights and "a few hundreds meters" people programming videogames, it's such a justaxposition.

When i saw this i thought it was a shot from Metro or something, seems CG

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http://www.radiosvoboda.org/section/tv/3512.html this live feed is really surrealist with the guys singing litanies

 

edit : alright fuck this i just watched 2 videos of people actually dying from gunshots in that reddit list(how terrible that may sounds, thanks internet), it's on the edge really, no wonder Ukrainians are pissed off. After such violences the government should have been dissolved if the well being of their population is actually their best interest, EU or not.

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As if the EU would actually have Ukraine anyway... Turkey applied what... 30 years ago? Are they in yet? Nyet.

 

 

You're making a lot of valid points but painting a bleak picture for the Ukraine's prospects of joining the EU in the future by refering to Turkey's state in the negotation talks is ludicrous. Turkey has its own set of problems and you know that, I'm sure. For the records here's a list of countries who have succesfully joined the EU in the past 30 years:

 

Spain, Portugal, East Germany and West Berlin join to form Germany, Austria, Sweden, Finland, Malta, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia.

 

At the end of the day, as a part of the EU or not, the Ukrainian people have a right to an unbiased court system. TBH I don't know how rampant corruption is though or if this is an exaggeration to fuel the fire. I'm definitely for obeying the democratic process as long as the elections aren't rigged. It's still hard for me to understand what got these protesters so fired up. Is Janukowitsch really selling the Ukraine out to Russia for personal enrichment? 

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I find it hard to believe that the EU would allow them in. The country faces it's third financial crisis since 2008 and is highly depended on Russia's money and gas. The EU is already crippled by Greece, Spain and Italy. There's no sane reasoning in taking on another money pit.

 

These are just facts, not hating on the people or anything like that.

Haha, German would let them in in a heart beat. Devalue the Euro, boost German exports massively. The entire German economy is reliant on events like this.

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