Fez 2 cancelled, Phil Fish to quit Game Industry

[Furyo]

This is how I view this entire clusterfuck of a shame. http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/swimming-in-a-sea-of-shit-the-internets-war-against-creatives

[Warby]

i really don't know how to feel about this.

 

random ass thoughts:

 

on one hand as an indie developer i am glad that there is less competition now

 

also he made a bunch of money and is now capable of cashing out good for him i wished i was in that position

 

i learned not to fan the flames of internet rage a long time ago that an adult male can live in this world and not have learned this just feels embarrassing to me

 

also i cant shake the feeling that he thinks very highly of his own work and that canceling fez 2 is kind of the biggest weapon in his arsenal "I WILL RETALIATE BY DEPRIVING THE WORLD OF FEZ2" ... the whole thing smells a bit arrogant.

 

when ever i saw/heard him speak he definitely came over as a douche-bag but does his personality even matter ? he delivered a top notch game game so i am cutting him slack you dont have to interact with him at all in order to buy/play/enjoy it (people say james cameron is an asshole but i think the quality and success of his work speaks for itself .... massive slack cutting going on there too)

 

 

 

i really cant form a cohesive opinion about the whole situation its a cluster fuck.

[Vilham]

Guy sounds like an total ass tbh, if not someone with mental issues. A break will probably do him good.

[KoKo5oVaR]

I'd like to post this part of an interview he made which is i think pretty relevant on how making a game yourself can get you fragilized :

 

 

edit : ah shit, at 1m56s end 2m56

 

 

Personal context is so much important on how you far you are able to handle things. I just can't help but respect the guy to have completed and released a succesful game; i don't know for you guys, but personally i know i couldn't manage to work on a game fulltime on my own. So if you add abuse on top of that ..

[Taylor]

Again, Fish was also very good at handing out his own abuse. That Penny-Arcade Report article doesn't even mention him as a controversial figure, like all he did to get negative attention was be a genius, and I don't think Fez 2 being cancelled was due to this escapade but rather a contributing factor to twitter meltdown - but, hey, it's Penny-Arcade Report. For the record, here are some other indie stances on this:

There is no Internet War on Creatives

We don’t need more “Phil Fish”s

Edited July 29, 2013 by Taylor

[selmitto]

Cliff B:

http://dudehugespeaks.tumblr.com/post/56805389679/dynamite-fishing-an-open-letter-to-phil-fish

[Kedhrin]

who are these people again?

[Vilham]

Tbh he does owe a lot to the media, and so do a lot of other successful indie developers, a lot of the time it isn't that their product suddenly becomes popular as hell and then the media reports on it (dwarf fortress, ksp, terraria and minecraft) its that some media guy finds the game and writes a glowing report on it, without that exposure a lot of indie developers products would flop. Regardless of whether you are indie or not, marketing/advertising is what gets you sales.

 

Fez was a PUBLISHED xbox game, how exactly is that classified as indie?

Edited July 29, 2013 by Vilham

[selmitto]

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Fez was a PUBLISHED xbox game, how exactly is that classified as indie?

 

I don't like to classify things, e.g. music: "is it heavy metal? Is it melodic death metal? Death core? Screamo? White metal? (*&#". To me, most types of classifications are useless. What matters is the content and quality.

But talking about whether FEZ was indie, I believe it really was because (AFAIK) no publishers influenced the game design decisions. So that's something independent.

[-HP-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_GVTsftKyA

 

This is what caused it btw. I have to say, I agree with Beer most of the times, he might be a bit to frontal now and then but that's why I like him.

[Sentura]

Again, Fish was also very good at handing out his own abuse. That Penny-Arcade Report article doesn't even mention him as a controversial figure, like all he did to get negative attention was be a genius, and I don't think Fez 2 being cancelled was due to this escapade but rather a contributing factor to twitter meltdown - but, hey, it's Penny-Arcade Report. For the record, here are some other indie stances on this:

There is no Internet War on Creatives

We don’t need more “Phil Fish”s

 

holy shit, that last article speaks to me. it is exactly what i would want to say if i could find the words.

[Taylor]

Kayin is a pretty cool dude. His Dragon's Crown commentary was refreshing too.

http://kayin.pyoko.org/?p=2392

Also, IWBTG is awesome and Brave Earth is looking sweet.

[Sentura]

Ohh he does fighting games as well. And he's an indie person. Interesting.

[Taylor]

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This is what caused it btw. I have to say, I agree with Beer most of the times, he might be a bit to frontal now and then but that's why I like him.

Well that’s what he gets paid for. "Hello, controversial hateful man whose name embodies their entire shtick, it’s your time to talk! What has caught your controversial hateful eye in time for this week’s deadline?" is presumably pencilled into the script.

Edit: Why the hell is this removing my quote end tag. THIIIRK.

Edited July 30, 2013 by Taylor

[Thrik]

Jeez I don't know. Use the button in the top left of the editor to see if anything looks weird in BBCode mode if that kind of thing happens, it's usually something invisible has been pasted in or some shit.