A Game of Thrones

[blackdog]

Can’t say I’m really happy about how’s going, but today was another hilarious day of wannabe writers manifesting their disdain for the show runners on social media.

That Daenarys was a (benevolent) tyrant was clear from the beginning, and that she

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would flip

was quite the given, considering her family past. I mean, what better Chekhov’s gun than all those stories about the Mad King wanting to “burn them all”? They had to pay it off. Also Varys had a line about how Westerosi would “flip a coin” every Targaryen king…

[Beck]

Yeah but she's never burnt innocents. She's always harped on about being the breaker of chains and freeing people from tyranny and then she goes and one ups her dad and actually burns everyone in the city.

I'm not happy with this season, everything feels super rushed and not much of it makes sense. So many character arcs have just been disregarded or fizzled out. I'm not claiming to be a writer or anything, I can't write for shit, but there's been a noticeable change since they ran out of book material.

[Radu]

 

 

Edited May 18, 2019 by Radu

[blackdog]

On 5/17/2019 at 9:55 AM, Beck said:

Yeah but she's never burnt innocents. She's always harped on about being the breaker of chains and freeing people from tyranny and then she goes and one ups her dad and actually burns everyone in the city.

I'm not happy with this season, everything feels super rushed and not much of it makes sense. So many character arcs have just been disregarded or fizzled out. I'm not claiming to be a writer or anything, I can't write for shit, but there's been a noticeable change since they ran out of book material.

Quoting a friend from Facebook: She destroyed Quarth, in Mereen she kills all the fathers/head of families without any due trial (for as corrupted you can’t say ALL men were terrible), she kills a traitor (fine)… and his prostitute/slave by locking them in a trunk, Kal Drogo promises to destroy Westeros for her and she’s very happy, likewise when she rounds up the Dothraki to go over the sea, she doesn’t use the “democracy” argument.

A tyrant is a tyrant, even if benevolent, they always on the razor edge.

I did find a bit extreme burning the city, but I think her portrayal was pushed to hint that, before the “ill use fear”. I think in her eyes the people she burnt were criminals to support the Lannisters and not rebel(?). She also looked very paranoid and I thought Tyron’s head would roll in the first episode really.

All of this not to justify or say the writing is amazing, like I said I’m not happy, but I think the previous season was worse.

Also not sure how much the lack of source material is to blame, the fact that books are not coming out makes me think Martin is quite involved in deciding where things are going, I mean we know the book ending will be different and how can you ensure that if you don’t discuss how to evolve the story and hit certain beats. Also Martin has publicly complained of fan theories being actually true so he changed stuff. That can’t be good for narrative, not only he had to come up with one new ending but two lol

I'm kinda at peace with it, other shows I follow are at the top right now

Edited May 18, 2019 by blackdog

[-HP-]

[dux]

I haven't watched the final episode yet. I don't really want to, but I'm committed to seeing this shit fest through. Expect to see me back in this thread later on having a fucking shit fit no doubt.

[PogoP]

I quite enjoyed the last ep. You can tell Martin had more of a hand in it. It was rushed as fuck though, which was a shame. I wish this entire season was cut into 2 separate seasons. One season about the NK, the other about Dany and the siege of King's Landing + wrapping up.

[dux]

What a pile of shit.

I am so upset at this finale episode and the season as a whole. Absolutely terrible, it couldn't of been any worse.

At least it made for some good meme's...

[blackdog]

I don’t see how they could end such a show in a satisfactory way, unless they ended on a massive cliffhanger. I don’t see a way that would have made all fans happy. I’m also convinced that with Martin still writing the books, he had to keep the ideal ending for himself*.

I dunno, I don’t feel I was that into this season, I think I checked out in S7, in which I already stopped being really emotionally involved. This way I only watched for the spectacle, of which there was plenty.

There are so many dumb things that went on, like how they decided for the new king but overall if not happy I’m at peace. I could never like Jon as much as others, he was a very passive hero in my eyes, so his ending seems fitting.

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It actually wraps back to where it started so GG.

These aspects sort of trample the cringe of the politically correct content.

*Arghable, since nowhere near as many people will read the books as viewers, but still probably the best marketing move for him.

[Tisky]

Well that was crap.

[Radu]

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Edited May 22, 2019 by Radu

[-HP-]

What the fuck? After all this hate, memes and disappointed people at the office saying this is the biggest pile of trash ever I went in with very tamed expectations, maybe that helped? Anyway, I finished the last ep last night, and both me and the wife absolutely adored this last season!
It's unexpected, full of plot twists and surprises, great dialog, great writing, great pacing, phenomenal acting, satisfactory culmination to all the different families and all the Stark brothers have some well deserved closure.

First half of the season is terrific, tbh if it all ended at the end of episode 3, it would already be good. The seconds half slows down a bit for good reason, and it started tying all the loose ends.

I sense I'm the only person on the planet who actually really enjoyed the ending of GoT, lol. Which is interesting since the first few seasons didn't really grab me as much as it did other people, the fandom around this show was borderline pretentious and annoying. Ironic but such is life.

My 2 cents I guess, I also think we shouldn't forget that GoT is a god damn TV show, I just feel grateful that very talented and passionate people were able to put together such a great show, GoT will be for sure be HBO's magnum opus for a long while, as much as I also love Westworld.

[Radu]

12 minutes ago, [HP] said:

What the fuck? After all this hate, memes and disappointed people at the office saying this is the biggest pile of trash ever I went in with very tamed expectations, maybe that helped? Anyway, I finished the last ep last night, and both me and the wife absolutely adored this last season!
It's unexpected, full of plot twists and surprises, great dialog, great writing, great pacing, phenomenal acting, satisfactory culmination to all the different families and all the Stark brothers have some well deserved closure.

First half of the season is terrific, tbh if it all ended at the end of episode 3, it would already be good. The seconds half slows down a bit for good reason, and it started tying all the loose ends.

I sense I'm the only person on the planet who actually really enjoyed the ending of GoT, lol. Which is interesting since the first few seasons didn't really grab me as much as it did other people, the fandom around this show was borderline pretentious and annoying. Ironic but such is life.

My 2 cents I guess, I also think we shouldn't forget that GoT is a god damn TV show, I just feel grateful that very talented and passionate people were able to put together such a great show, GoT will be for sure be HBO's magnum opus for a long while, as much as I also love Westworld.

Like I said before, I'm pretty satisfied with the conclusion. My main complaints are in regards to how they got to that conclusion. People were let down because it was an extremely good show with clever writing and often surprising moments. That's why the last season was so disappointing. Some of the writing was mediocre at best.

[-HP-]

Yep, I can respect that too, to each his own man!  And yeah, I'm 100% serious, we really liked it.

[blackdog]

3 minutes ago, [HP] said:

Yep, I can respect that too, to each his own man!  And yeah, I'm 100% serious, we really liked it.

Were you smoking at the time mate?  surely that would make it more enjoyable.