Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

[FMPONE]

I can see a rationale for the rifle changes, but honestly it seems like the effort to push the AUG and SSG is kind of never going to work. The user experience on those guns totally sucks, they become inaccurate RNG machines after the very first bullet, and the whole point of them is to pop off targets long range. If you miss your first shot, it's useless, but aren't they supposed to be accurate? 

People just want want reliability of their guns, it's why you'll settle for not having a scope with an AK or m4, at least if you miss you can't blame the gun. Or, that was how it worked. 

The AWP/AK/m4 trifecta has pretty much always defined CS when other games would have more balanced arsenals but maybe nothing that feels as compelling as that combo. I've read that the change to accuracy was less than 2%, in any event it would be interesting to learn the rationale behind a change, but explaining it to the community just gives them ammunition in reactionary arguments, so I totally get why that doesn't happen more often and I definitiely don't think the community should act as armchair game developers on minute details like this.

[DrywallDreams]

The whole issue with the change is that the first shot is so bad that spraying became the main method of shooting in CS:GO.  If that were better, the changes would probably feel way better.  I've never quite felt comfortable with the CS:GO AK when compared with 1.6, I don't know why they would make it harder.

[Vorontsov]

@Bevielis Humans are cancer

Edited December 13, 2015 by Vorontsov

[laminutederire]

It's more that they need to fix a lot of other things!

[blackdog]

The whole issue with the change is that the first shot is so bad that spraying became the main method of shooting in CS:GO.  If that were better, the changes would probably feel way better.  I've never quite felt comfortable with the CS:GO AK when compared with 1.6, I don't know why they would make it harder.

oh that's why I suck!

no seriously, never been ace but I haven't been able to adapt to the new mechanics, and always try to do single shots. sometime is embarrassing.

Dont the pros in tournament single/burst fire?? (I don't watch matches)

[laminutederire]

oh that's why I suck!

no seriously, never been ace but I haven't been able to adapt to the new mechanics, and always try to do single shots. sometime is embarrassing.

Dont the pros in tournament single/burst fire?? (I don't watch matches)

sometimes they spray down almost one clip, but usually they tend to put some bullets on the head really fast. I think they do not strafe back and forth so much because one of them is killed very fast

[jackophant]

Tapping/Bursting/Spraying all have their place in the game, the problem is that they've increased the random spread of the pattern which up close doesn't make too much difference, but reduces the range at which spraying is possible.

Spraying was imo, the holy grail of cs aim. If you could learn the spray pattern perfectly, you could fire off 30 rounds down Dust2 A long, and they'd all find their target. Now with the increased random element of the pattern this isn't possible at such distance. They could have increased recovery time between shots so that sprays were harder to do due to "more recoil", kind of like how long it takes the deagle to settle between shots.

They also decreased the accuracy of the first shot which makes those one tap AK entry shots less reliable and again increases the element of random in the weapon accuracy.

As is the way with competitive games, the more random something is, the less space for skill. Skill is the interesting thing to watch, not when a random bullet scores a headshot as you have no control over it, but noobs who don't have skill rely on RNG to close the gap between themselves and better players.

[laminutederire]

If they want to improve the game they can do a lot without touching those game mechanics for instance, they could finally change that voting system so that we don't have to suffer the monopoly of dust 2 for death match! 

[clankill3r]

Just sold a gun that I bought some time ago

Glad I sold it before the next major Cause as far as I know more souvenirs would have com out.

I already lost a shitload of money but It was very learn full  Know I know how many factors come into play.
Glad to see some money back

[Lizard]

Europe needs a new World War and every Russian male ages 10-25 needs to be conscripted. I swear if I get one more screaming Russian kid in matchmaking I'll build a fucking nuke myself. How do those kids with fetal alchohol syndrome even end up in high-rank matchmaking.

There, I said it. Ban me.

 

I found them very nice to play with. I always summon my inner сyка in warmup to set them on and just roll with it.

[Overdoziz]

[RivFader]

Ever since I studied abroad in Eastern Europe I have no problem with them ingame anymore. Just remember one of the few phrases you know, then give some general directions and you are good to go. It really all comes down to attitude.

 

Honestly, I find many Germans more annoying but that may be so because I am German as well and get all the small idiotic remarks they often throw around in MM comms.

Edited December 14, 2015 by RivFader

[Overdoziz]

Guess they upped the requirements for Supreme:

*That list is missing a couple of wins on Supreme.

[DrywallDreams]

holy shit MM is broken as fuck now.  I just got out of (abandoned) a game with only new players that didn't use mics.  In MGE.  

Fuck it, I'm done, the game is fucking shit right now.

EDIT: to better explain: the iconographic ranking system has been broken from the start.  It only serves as a status symbol if you can say "I'm global", when in reality you have only bought a flashbang once, and a smoke maybe three times.  When I was in DMG, no one knew how to play sensibly, and would get angry at the mere suggestion that "rush B" wasn't a good strat.  Now that Valve has tried for a third or fourth time to salvage it, it's become unplayable garbage.  It mixes new players with thousand+ hour players now, it's simply not fun in the least.  The ranking system was implemented as a constant, and that's a big problem.  As players begin to gain more skill, the ranks make less and less sense.  Because Valve failed to note the systems in place in Dota 2 (yet again), we got stuck with a broken ranking system.

Edited December 15, 2015 by DrywallDreams

[Quotingmc]

I was kicked by a 4 man who were taking turns to kill me each round. On round 8 they kicked me. After game finishes and I load up cs:go, I had been deranked. Definatly not broken...