What have you watched recently?

[D3ads]

Should I watch Hannibal?

 

Yes, yes you should

[FrieChamp]

@Koko: What do you mean by saying "the story is completely futile"? It's been a while that I watched the movie, but I remember it being about temptation, egoism and the way these things put ourselves and our beloved ones in danger.

[KoKo5oVaR]

@Koko: What do you mean by saying "the story is completely futile"? It's been a while that I watched the movie, but I remember it being about temptation, egoism and the way these things put ourselves and our beloved ones in danger.

 

Huge spoilers 

 

Well by the story, i don't mean the movie. I was pitched into it as a psychological drama over couple, masculine and feminine desires, temptation, deception; so i first tried to read it with the couple perspective in mind.

 

it's futile in the sense that what the characters are doing is futile, and so i felt their story to be. They have desires, temptations but at the same time you aren't really sure if they desire something at all. They feel so shallow and what they desire is so meaningless, having sex with two girls, fancy orgies, being part of the upper world, Alice in that matter doesn't strike me to desire anything, she is just bored and doesn't dream of love or romance, she dreams of being sadistic and make her husband suffer; and they do it pretty much like automatons would do, conforming to a style, emotionlessly.

 

Like in Barry Lyndon, everything is well draped in distinction, elegance; Especially by contrast, because you clearly see the difference between the environments of the lower classes and those of the upper classes. In both everything is artificial but in a different way. The lower classes are flooding in frontal kitsch : bright offensive lights, christmas decorations, oppressively colorful paintings in the couple apartment. Whereas for the upper classes the kitsch disappear and leaves place to classical art, liturgy, demonstration, manners, costumes, style and distinction; in a sense, a much more expensive and exquisite sense of unreality (but at the same time you clearly see the pianist playing in full light, all of his electronic set up in plain view in the liturgical part giving the trick away).

 

So if you look through the meaningless mystifying wall of smoke, you discover a really morbid universe where doctor Bill ultimately always ends up paying the bill (he throws money at people the whole movie) and that the distinguished orgy ends up just being about fucking hookers like Ziegler does in the intimacy of his toilets.

 

An interesting thing is also how doctor Bill is confounded in front of the masked crowd and how he has to take his mask away, and then afterwards is asked to take his clothes off; as if appearing human in front of a costumed crowd marks his distinction. What is natural is trivial and therefore is rejected, as are the women nude bodies being objectified into style. Feelings are natural and that's why i think the movie feels so cold, they just aren't there.

 

So you are right i think; It's definitely not about sex, relationships or the like. I think it's much more a movie about power and manipulation (like a lot of Kubrick's movies). While being mystified, doctor Bill forget everything, he forget about the murder of the hooker, forget about the child prostitution in the costume shop. He sees but doesn't react, he stays passive bow down and ends the movie centred about his couple.

 

And most importantly he forget about his daughter and let her mother dragging her away from him, (you don't see their daughter alone without her mother anywhere in the movie) until she disappear looking at her oblivious dad in the toys supermarket at the end while following three guys which were at ziegler party at the beginning of the movie.

 

Like him the audience is drawn by the hypnotic nature of the movie (rhythm and length), its story is firmly grounded in reality and the movie is trying to make you believe it's lyrical.

 

Well lol, i'm having so much fun, sorry about that. At first it felt like meh, and as much as i gnaw on the bone, the more i like it. Which is just that in the end really, but i like it.   Absolutely not disapointed, it's probably my favourite Kubrick movie i think .

[Minos]

Eyes Wide Shut is awesome, definitely one of my favorite Kubrick movies

 

It's a very superficial movie at first, but if you want you can discuss about its intricacies for years and years and never reach a consensus. It's one of those rare movies full of multiple meanings and symbolism which can be interpreted in several different ways.

 

I'm not a Tom Cruise fan, I think he seems to be a stupid guy in real life, which is exactly why he is the perfect actor for this movie. I kinda see his character the way I imagine Tom Cruise is in real life.

 

Anyways, here's a nice analysis on the movie by some Illuminati theorist. Take this with a grain of salt, it's one of those cases of when you have a hammer everything looks like a nail so the guy sees Illuminati everywhere, but I think he's got some things right:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hidden-and-not-so-hidden-messages-in-stanley-kubriks-eyes-wide-shut-pt-i/

 

+ Bonus: Real life illuminati orgy a-la Eyes Wide Shut from the 70s: http://sobadsogood.com/2013/08/20/extraordinary-photos-from-a-1972-rothschild-surrealist-dinner-party/

[KoKo5oVaR]

Yeah that's the thing, i definitely take a pinch of salt. But indeed there's interesting stuff. I've saw several critics of the movie on so called subversive illuminatis conspirations and paranoia business websites. The movie definitely gives them something to write about because of its ethereal nature.

 

Like when the guy writes :

So, when the models ask Bill the go “where the rainbow ends”, they probably refer to going “where the elite gathers and performs rituals”. It might also be about them being dissociated Beta Programming slaves.

 

 

By an innocent movie critic you learn new strange vocabulary, want to know more and ultimately click on the ads. I would be more inclined to say that where the rainbow ends is where the leprechaun have his cauldron of gold but yeah that could be any interpretation indeed.

 

 

What drawn my attention, is when dr Bill is at the phone at the hooker flat. There's a book there called "introducing sociology". I have the feeling this is what the movie is about. That and how the style have the primat over anything else.

 

Needs more beers and doobies really, and i'm off for the night.

 

 

edit : pretty much spot on critic i found i think http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0096.html

[blackdog]

Depends if you're talking about the Hannibal movie… just ok that was. (Book was a total shit.)

[blackdog]

Total Recall was on ITV tonight, just finished watching it... my mate was checking the Twittersphere during the most memorable scenes, and it was all about the three boobs, you thought it was the real me and of course

 

 

it's incredible how the special effects and matte paintings aged well, and how much the set design influenced later productions... i'd put my hand on the fire in saying that id Software for D3 and Rage got inspired copiously from this one.

Edited May 29, 2014 by blackdog

[Sprony]

Total Recall was on ITV tonight, just finished watching it... my mate was checking the Twittersphere during the most memorable scenes, and it was all about the three boobs, you thought it was the real me and of course

 

 

it's incredible how the special effects and matte paintings aged well, and how much the set design influenced later productions... i'd put my hand on the fire in saying that id Software for D3 and Rage got inspired copiously from this one.

 

That's because CGI ruined it. There's nothing wrong with using CGI but most of the time it's overused. Like blood bags, it's looks much better but it creates a mess so they do it in CGI. Same goes for lots of other stuff and you just see it's fake. That's why I'm a 80's sucker. Give me practical effects!

 

Also, Total Recall will never age because it's a timeless classic!

[Chimeray]

Trance(2013). Definitely requires a lot of attention but oh boy is it worth it! Haven't been so captivated by a movie in a long time! And the music...!!! I guess there might be plotholes and lots of things might be left for interpretation but imo that's not really the point, the whole experience is just awesome!

 

Don't watch a trailer, just go for it, can't go wrong with Danny Boyle!

Edited May 30, 2014 by Chimeray

[blackdog]

Yeah, Trance was fucking great! Seen at the cinema

I'm just back from Days Of Future Past and I must say I enjoyed it a lot! It didn't have all those kid moments like First Class.

I was expecting the Sentinels to be steampunk-ish, at least in the first iteration, because of the first teaser. Cool tho.

I haven't seen the other movies (the original saga) so I was wondering about some of the mutants of the future, especially the guy with the rifle… never heard of someone like that.

[Taylor Swift]

watched robocop. not bad.

[D3ads]

X-Men DOFP: I really enjoyed it, was better than I expected. Sure you can pretty much guess what is going to happen (apart from the very last bit.. or maybe that's just me) but it's still a fun ride and it's good to see Patrick and Ian reunited again.

 

Edge Of Tomorrow: "Source code" like fare with added subtle comedy, again you know what's likely to happen at the end but it's still a good time getting there.

[FrieChamp]

Anybody else watching Fargo ? Good stuff...

[D3ads]

Anybody else watching Fargo ? Good stuff...

 

Yes! I was never really a fan of the film but the series is really good, Mister Numbers and Wrench are Gold!

[PaulH]

I just started watching Fargo, seen about three episodes. Very good! Surprising how good it is actually, had no idea what to expect. I did enjoy the movie when it came out though