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Hey everyone, and especially the people in Canada, this is very very important as the CRTC, Bell and big telecom companies are on the greed train to screw over the little guy. :ubermad: I am posting this in the gaming discussion because, down-loadable content (such as games from Steam, etc) are only getting bigger and bigger, and that takes lots of bandwidth usage, am I right? And right now, small ISP companies have had great bandwidth rates with great prices. Well Bell and other big telecom companies think we have to have caps and pay more. Doesn't matter where you guys live, please help support this to stop our greedy corporation train. All of the information is provided in the quote below;

Bell Canada and other big telecom companies can now freely impose usage-based billing on independent Internet Service Providers (indie ISPs) and YOU.

This means we're looking at a future where ISPs will charge per byte, the way they do with smart phones. If we allow this to happen Canadians will have no choice but to pay more for less Internet.

Big Telecom companies are obviously trying to gouge consumers, control the Internet market, and ensure that consumers continue to subscribe to their television services.

This will crush innovative services, Canada's digital competitiveness, and your wallet.

We need to stand up for the Internet.

Sign the Stop The Meter petition by ‘liking’ or sharing this note or posting a comment below.

*You can also sign the petition through Twitter or online here: http://StopTheMeter.ca/

As some of you know, the CRTC recently rendered a decision forcing all independent DSL and Cable Internet providers to substantially match incumbent (like Bell) usage rate caps. This will influence all of our internet service packages across Canada eventually, but DSL residential customers in Ontario and Quebec first, as of March 1. Along with you, we are not pleased with this, and our view is more fully expressed in our press release which you can find here: http://www.teksavvynews.com/

The CRTC decision to impose UBB on the whole market is a big win for Bell and other major carriers, but a big hit to everyone else in Canada. To view the CRTC decision, go to:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-44.htm

Like our customers, and Canadian internet users everywhere, we are not happy with this new development. We will continue our efforts to fight the imposition of exorbitant bandwidth charges on usage with virtually no incremental cost to Bell and other UBB carriers, and we will develop strategies to restore the usage levels and costs our customers have come to expect. But we need your support to succeed, and get back to the cost structure we have a right to expect.

If like us you are disappointed with the CRTC’s decision, make your views known on UBB and what it means to you (and Canada frankly) by going to http://www.stopthemeter.ca, where you will find a petition against UBB. Sign it, get involved, and together we will make a difference! Let everyone you know understand that Canada is about to become the most expensive internet market in the industrialized world!

We will keep you informed of our efforts, and look to you for your help.

If you would like to get more involved go to these links to make your thoughts known and join this battle:

* http://www.stopthemeter.ca - signing the petition will now automatically send our Minister of Industry, Tony Clement, the person politically responsible for the CRTC, an email.

* Join the twitter campaign at http://act.ly/2kw

* Join the Facebook campaign http://www.facebook.com/notes/openmedia ... 5248704798

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OK, so the deal here is that they want to charge per megabyte, right? This has been pretty common in germany (and i suppose in the rest of europe) until like 5 years ago but due to smaller companies offering unlimited flatrates at lower prices the market followed.

If this is something all your big isps worked on together you might even want to call the Antitrust Divison (or whatever it is called). This has been something in germany as well, when energy-providers (electrical power) tried to increase the prices, the Antitrust Division stopped them because they were rising the prices artificially and in common with their supposed-to-be-competitors.

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The stuff in the OP is not being very clear: In Canada virtually all the internet infrastructure is owned by Bell, who are forced to lend their bandwidth out to other companies for the sake of competition. These other companies have been beating the pants of Bell, selling better service with fewer restrictions for cheaper, so Bell petitioned the government to allow it to charge these renter ISPs for used bandwidth.

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The stuff in the OP is not being very clear: In Canada virtually all the internet infrastructure is owned by Bell, who are forced to lend their bandwidth out to other companies for the sake of competition. These other companies have been beating the pants of Bell, selling better service with fewer restrictions for cheaper, so Bell petitioned the government to allow it to charge these renter ISPs for used bandwidth.

Its the only way the small ISP companies like Teksavvy can stand a chance by having better service rates, but again Bell should fix their rates at least to closer match what the smaller ISP have to offer.

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Poor Canada, that really sucks. But there is no way such a model will survive. It's just anachronistic and will make Canada fall behind considerably tech wise. Even the most stupid politicians will notice that quickly. Sounds also like a good opportunity for some other big company to invest into infrastructure and attract a lot of Canadian customers.

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Except the CRTC is run by the ISP CEOs collectively. That's the most stupid part of this whole thing, the agency that's supposed to regulate the market and protect the consumers are run by the CEOs of the existing ISPs who are fixing up prices and services (all major companies that have a seat at the CRTC all offer the same packages at the same price).

French ISP "Free" tried a few years back to invest and launch itself on the Canadian market, starting with Quebec of course. CRTC blocked them off saying they are too competitive with their offer (they currently have the best in France by far) and would destroy the market. They basically offer a totally unlimited internet, cable and phone service for 30 euros a month, which in pure purchasing power equals to 35 CAD a month. That's 4 times cheaper than the fixed Canadian prices.

This thing needs to get in front of the WTO with huge financial penalties to companies that do not comply to the global market.

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Does Canada not have antitrust laws? This all sounds very fucked up. Surely there must be something in the constitution or somewhere that overrides such harmful regulations by the CRTC. Probably a matter of someone stepping up and sueing them through all instances. Only it would take years and meanwhile they laugh and happily collect money from all Canadian internet users. :sad:

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Except the CRTC is run by the ISP CEOs collectively. That's the most stupid part of this whole thing, the agency that's supposed to regulate the market and protect the consumers are run by the CEOs of the existing ISPs who are fixing up prices and services (all major companies that have a seat at the CRTC all offer the same packages at the same price).

Sounds like Brazil :(

Anyway, signed the petition!

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":oe2yjaar]Buddy just linked me this, I had to

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Love it HP, its so true, at least in Quebec right now. Things are looking good though, As of Tuesday, more than 200,000 people had signed the petition and the usage-based Internet pricing

is facing review.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/F ... story.html

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2011 ... ement.html

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