Rio de Janeiro - nov 25 2010

[Duff-e]

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/11 ... ce.html?hp

[dux]

I'm amazed that not ONE has a helmet. One has a bandanna, but that ain't gonna deflect a bullet. They must be super confident of the opposition being a bad shot.

[-HP-]

I'm amazed that not ONE has a helmet. One has a bandanna, but that ain't gonna deflect a bullet. They must be super confident of the opposition being a bad shot.

It's like the Gears of war universe man, if you got a helmet, it's a matter of time 'till your dead.

[Buddy]

They can't just really afford helmets and vest afaik.

[arhurt]

They can't just really afford helmets and vest afaik.

Exactly.

We have been building a specialized force ready to take on this kind of conflict for years now, but there is still a lot of ground to go. If you look closely, no vests, no helmets, barely any radios or comm devices either.

[Steppenwolf]

You guys know that helmets don't protect from bullets? Army helmets are for protection from shrapnel and dirt thats flying around. Do the drug lords fight with mortars and artillery grenades? The normal helmets also make hearing difficult which is bad in urban combat (hence you see more and more helmets with ears open in places like Iraq). So i'm not 100% convinced that their no helmet appearence has to do with bad equipment. Could be a tactical choice.

And it also makes sensde that some of these guys have FAL's. Not all of them fight inside buildings. Afaik they have fights up hills and alleys with longer combat distances. It's a good weapon to actualy stop a criminal on mid-range.

[dux]

Helmets can and do stop bullets. Sure, I'm no solider but I've been told enough by family in the military from their stories and read enough that they can and do. Maybe not 10 times out of 10, but better to have something than nothing. I know that I'd sure rather have a helmet on.

[Minos]

We are talking about BOPE here. I'm pretty sure they have all the equipment they need at their disposal. It may just be a tactical choice indeed.

A typical operation in a shanty town, with a SAS soldier participating. He looks like a pussy next to the BOPE men:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d35_1227119082&c=1

Traffickers escaping the shanty after BOPE invaded yesterday (how I wish the cops had an armed chopper at their disposal):

A map of the drug traffickers attacks:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 0c8fde152b

[Steppenwolf]

Helmets can and do stop bullets. Sure, I'm no solider but I've been told enough by family in the military from their stories and read enough that they can and do. Maybe not 10 times out of 10, but better to have something than nothing. I know that I'd sure rather have a helmet on.

A 7.62mm round went straight through this British army helmet in Afghanistan:

Combat helmets don't stop bullets. That's a legend. One of the first things i was told when i joined the army. And think about it even if a bullet comes in such a flat angle that it deflects from a helmet that basicly means it would have missed the head without the helmet on.

[arhurt]

We are talking about BOPE here. I'm pretty sure they have all the equipment they need at their disposal. It may just be a tactical choice indeed.

I wouldn't be so sure of that Min0. They may even have enough to fully outfit 20 to 40 agents, but the operation had 150 BOPE agents, and they may have spread their resources thin for that. Most likely these images are not of the front line confrontations, where their best gear would be in use.

[dux]

Helmets can and do stop bullets. Sure, I'm no solider but I've been told enough by family in the military from their stories and read enough that they can and do. Maybe not 10 times out of 10, but better to have something than nothing. I know that I'd sure rather have a helmet on.

A 7.62mm round went straight through this British army helmet in Afghanistan

The PASGT Helmet is said to have stopped rifle rounds on occasion, I'd happily take the chance that it would deflect. And what hit this chap in the head for times? I'm assuming it was quite a slow moving soft bullet but still, it saved him and that's cool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2890081.stm

[Vilham]

We are talking about BOPE here. I'm pretty sure they have all the equipment they need at their disposal. It may just be a tactical choice indeed.

I wouldn't be so sure of that Min0. They may even have enough to fully outfit 20 to 40 agents, but the operation had 150 BOPE agents, and they may have spread their resources thin for that. Most likely these images are not of the front line confrontations, where their best gear would be in use.

Indeed, the vast vast vast majority of officers involved wouldn't have been BOPE agents anyway:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11838472

Yes, 17,500 officers (yes I know not all will have been frontline). I very much doubt their police has that many helmets.

[Minos]

they dispatched Duke Nukem to the war!!

http://noticias.uol.com.br/album/201011 ... otoNav=164

[dux]

haha

[madgernader]

they dispatched Duke Nukem to the war!!

http://noticias.uol.com.br/album/201011 ... otoNav=164

THATS where he's been all this time!