DOTA 2

[FMPONE]

Looked at it some more before I return to CS:GO mapping for the night: the amount of crossover between the new hammer and the old hammer is pretty shocking. They're honestly much, much, much more alike than they are different. I'm pleasantly surprised.

[El Moroes]

I will try that ! I have to learn this !!!

[Sjonsson]

So many maps, games and mods I want to do! So many engines I want to have an intimate relationship with! What TO DO?!?! GAAH!

[Vilham]

Fuck. Yeah.

 

             

[General Vivi]

I would like to make something quick and dirty next week. If anyone wants to hook up and get something done.

 

Wouldn't mind some kind of mini-game or contained mode.

 

-capture the flag (cheese)

[Sjonsson]

Did anyone ever play the Mario Party maps for WarCraft 3? 

It's just a series of mini-games such as "Don't touch the grass and get from A to B as fast as possible" or "Kill as many penguins as you can" et cetera. Just really simple mini-games where the winner is awarded one point for each mini-game won, after 10 mini-games a winner is declared based on the points.

I was thinking, since everyone here is a scrub on the dota modding tools, what if everyone makes a mini-game for 10 players FFA and then we compile it into one big chunk of Mapcore awesomeness? 

Whatcho think?

[PogoP]

Looks a lot like the Spark Editor we used on NS2, especially the brush creation stuff.

 

Cool stuff

[FrieChamp]

HammerCore

[Sentura]

I'm still looking for the scripting editor... I was hoping for some blueprint esque action. Anyone?

[Skjalg]

it seems its all scripted in lua with c++ as a static back end.

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dota_2_Workshop_Tools/Scripting/

 

But you also have the events/triggers stuff from source in hammer afaik.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Skjalg

[Mazy]

So can this be used for, you know, anything that's not DOTA2?

[will2k]

big news today, seems like Valve is testing Source2 with Dota2 first.

 

It's a radical change as far as I can see compared to the good old Worldcraft 2.1 I first used in 1999

 

Here are some of the changes in the new Hammer:

 

The editor compiles to a new map format, vmap_c

It also uses a new model format, vmdl.
You can import tgas, FBX files, and here's a list from facepunch of the rest:

• Brushes are now meshes and act like models. You can edit by face, edge, and vertex.

• New particle editor / realtime material editor

• Better prefab support, just drag and drop a prefab from the asset browser to place and double click in the viewport to edit it.

• You can blend ANY materials together on displacements in hammer, no more specifying $basetexture and $basetexture2

• Custom Tilesets (Might be Dota specific)

• Realtime Lighting, WYSIWYG

• Hammer has its own model editor and asset browser

• The developer binary of the game as well as hammer run through what's called vconsole, where you can get feedback and run console commands just like the regular ingame console

• There's a new 3D viewport manipulator that lets you transform as well as change lengths of meshes which is quite useful.

• Pivot points

• Compiling doesn't freeze your PC

• The engine now uses a new type of models, vmdl

• They also dropped bsp, they now use a custom format named vmap (vmap_c when compiled)

 

Source: http://www.valvetime.net/threads/dota-2-workshop-tools-introduce-hammer-2014.245390/ (7th post)

 

EDIT: Meshes and real time lighting are the most exciting changes in my opinion.

Edited August 7, 2014 by will2k

[FMPONE]

big news today, seems like Valve is testing Source2 with Dota2 first.

 

It's a radical change as far as I can see compared to the good old Worldcraft 2.1 I first used in 1999

 

Here are some of the changes in the new Hammer:

 

The editor compiles to a new map format, vmap_c

It also uses a new model format, vmdl.

You can import tgas, FBX files, and here's a list from facepunch of the rest:

• Brushes are now meshes and act like models. You can edit by face, edge, and vertex.

• New particle editor / realtime material editor

• Better prefab support, just drag and drop a prefab from the asset browser to place and double click in the viewport to edit it.

• You can blend ANY materials together on displacements in hammer, no more specifying $basetexture and $basetexture2

• Custom Tilesets (Might be Dota specific)

• Realtime Lighting, WYSIWYG

• Hammer has its own model editor and asset browser

• The developer binary of the game as well as hammer run through what's called vconsole, where you can get feedback and run console commands just like the regular ingame console

• There's a new 3D viewport manipulator that lets you transform as well as change lengths of meshes which is quite useful.

• Pivot points

• Compiling doesn't freeze your PC

• The engine now uses a new type of models, vmdl

• They also dropped bsp, they now use a custom format named vmap (vmap_c when compiled)

 

Source: http://www.valvetime.net/threads/dota-2-workshop-tools-introduce-hammer-2014.245390/ (7th post)

 

Please become an expert on this editor also, Will~

[Sentura]

Shift drag duplicates and they have edge extrusion. So far so good.

[will2k]

 

 

Please become an expert on this editor also, Will~

 

Haha, i will have to wait until they shift other titles to source2 to sink my teeth in this new hammer. I don't play dota2

 

but nevertheless this is exciting news and update especially the realtime lighting which is really cumbersome in Hammer currently as you have probably experienced this countless times