Portal 2

[D3ads]

I think some of the popularity of the Source engine games is just that though.. because the technology is old they can run on the lower-end systems and people from poorer countries and regions who can't afford the biggest brand new PC can play the games quite easily.

[Puddy]

... and it leaves room to focus on the game itself.

Plenty'o'room!

[Gloglebag]

Source engine looks fantastic, it's the tools that are outdated and crappy. For a company with such a strong mod following that's a dammed shame.

[Campaignjunkie]

Mapping for Portal 2 has made me realize how important BSP is for it... I can't imagine prototyping this in an editor with crappy BSP or grayboxing tools. In that sense, tools-wise, it's a perfect fit for Source. Maybe BSP isn't as dead as everyone thinks it is.

[Sentura]

Mapping for Portal 2 has made me realize how important BSP is for it... I can't imagine prototyping this in an editor with crappy BSP or grayboxing tools. In that sense, tools-wise, it's a perfect fit for Source. Maybe BSP isn't as dead as everyone thinks it is.

bsp is just a way of showing visible clusters at a time instead of rendering the entire map. i don't see why people call it outdated, most data structures like the bsp have been created like 50 years ago and are still in use today.

[insta]

I think he was speaking of brushes you big silly billy!!!!

edit: but yes, bsp as a data structure something or another has been around for 50 years and its refreshing to see it still around

[Campaignjunkie]

I think he was speaking of brushes you big silly billy!!!!

SENTURA YOU ARE SO SILLY

[ElectroSheep]

I love brushes, expecially with hammer (and it's texturing tools, sooo simple (take it, Max!!)) I was very disapointed when I dicovered the brushes system in UE3

I know, everything is about models today but... a simple wall need brushes !!

[Sentura]

I think he was speaking of brushes you big silly billy!!!!

SENTURA YOU ARE SO SILLY

but brushes have nothing to do with the bsp structure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_space_partitioning

[Zyn]

Suddenly: http://www.thinkwithportals.com/blog.php?id=5443&p=1

Today we're opening up the beta of the Portal 2 Authoring Tools to everyone! It's available as a free download for all owners of the PC version of Portal 2 and can be found under the "Tools" tab in Steam.

The Portal 2 Authoring Tools include versions of the same tools we used to make Portal 2. They'll allow you to create your own singleplayer and co-op maps, new character skins, 3D models, sound effects, and music.

The tools also include a huge amount of instances to get things going.

[Campaignjunkie]

but brushes have nothing to do with the bsp structure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_space_partitioning

Yes, yes, we all know what BSP actually is

But in this forum, "BSP" has evolved as slang for "brushwork." It's been in usage for a while...

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16155&p=291991&hilit=BSP#p291991

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14350&p=289865&hilit=BSP#p289865

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15911&p=283525&hilit=BSP#p283525

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15691&p=278003&hilit=BSP#p278003

and that concludes this public service announcement

[Rick_D]

I think he was speaking of brushes you big silly billy!!!!

SENTURA YOU ARE SO SILLY

but brushes have nothing to do with the bsp structure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_space_partitioning

god almighty stop being a dick, i swear you do it on purpose

[twiz]

I just finished it... epic.

And on the topic of the source engine.. I think the industry broke the immersibility/believability barrier in the early/mid 2000s. I've never played a source engine game which required a significant leap of faith to believe what is going on. I replay HL2/ep1/ep2 every so often, and I'm never struggling to cope with outdated graphics like I do playing HL1 or anything of that generation, and HL2 is going on 7 years old. Granted, it pales in comparison graphically to the Crysis games or Uncharted or etc, but for me, those enhancements are "sugar on top" - source graphics are good enough for me to be able to fully appreciate the story and gameplay aspects without being distracted by fractures in graphical immersion.

Valve continues to tweak Source to bring a little bit more to the table, and combined with their superb level designers and environmental artists, can still drop my jaw from time to time. Parts of Portal 2 had me gaping, and nothing in between had me yearning for more.

[Tailgunner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdOOBoCA ... dded#at=32

valve hates adobted children

[Bunglo]

lol fuck you WBTV.