Valve Teases Upcoming Half-Life Release for Mac

[Sentura]

":jedwdv14]Ah ok... So because we DO care about Graphic Cards, Video games, 3D, etc, that makes us the kids without a life while you're the grown up suit that got fed up of that life and went to try something else and start to judge everyone that still lives in your "past life", therefor you do have a life now.

Man, you're logic is awesome!

You know what I say? That you are an egocentric and pretentious ex-geek.

even suits play games, i know a few

[Duff-e]

A lot of the random Mac shit talking is antagonistic for no reason. If you don't care then don't care but why shit on a thread on a small forum between people who are interested in the topic? Especially when you're dropping gems like "fuck macs" and then calling out people for their choices.

What excites me most about Steam on Mac is that young kids who live in Mac households now have a whole new platform open to them. Fuck both sides of stupid Mac/PC bullshit.

[Ginger Lord]

If it works well/adequately on a bog standard 13" MBP, I don't think I'll be able to resist getting one for much longer.

[Mazy]

A lot of the random Mac shit talking is antagonistic for no reason. If you don't care then don't care but why shit on a thread on a small forum between people who are interested in the topic? Especially when you're dropping gems like "fuck macs" and then calling out people for their choices.

What excites me most about Steam on Mac is that young kids who live in Mac households now have a whole new platform open to them. Fuck both sides of stupid Mac/PC bullshit.

Exactly. But I guess that's the entire idea, try and stir things up. I've been PC gaming for pretty much my entire life, and it wasn't until last year that I got a Mac, which was a means to just handle the fundamental web stuff since I personally didn't feel a need for a bigass stationary gaming rig anymore and really just prefer console gaming these days.

Are you guys really unable to accept the fact that some people have different needs and priorities, and that that's alright?

Seriously saddens me to have this kind of shallow minded behavior around here. This kind of behavior just degrades these forums with each post.

[dux]

I think that, reading over the posts, people lost their sense of humour somewhat.

Basically:

[Mazy]

Well if your idea of humour is desperately trying to ignite a flame war, then yeah, I guess that's lost on me.

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[dux]

Swing and a miss.

[Grinwhrl]

There will always be a debate between the MAC and PC, and it will blend into Yeah or Neah. We might as well be talking about religions. I for one, enjoy reading the positives, negatives and the flames.

Carry on

[Serenius]

I for one would like to congratulate and welcome the Mac to 2004. It's going to be a great year.

you blame this on the mac? i can only agree with mazy, that some of you guys act like childish fools. get a life. thanks.

Hey now, no need for all the misguided hostility. This is just the beginning, and things will only improve for you and your Mac brethren from here. Peace be unto you, my brother. This is a time of celebration, not fighting.

[Pericolos0]

i actually got one, because i don't care about mudbox, hammer, high-end-3d-graphic-cards 'n' shit. if you want to blame me for that, than fine. do it! your attitude remains as i remind it.

[Rick_D]

Great article on a blog I saw the other day. Why apple succeeded with the iPhone and such. It does a few things very well, and fuck all to the rest. So phones that did everything just ended up being too complicated, even though they could do much more.

The same principle applies to a Mac, they can't do as much as a PC (this isn't debatable, right?), but they simplify things and make certain that the few things they do do, they do well (wonderful English there, my teachers would be so proud) (alternatively: *huh huh, he said doodoo*).

If you want to use a Mac then go crazy, I have often thought about getting one myself but I can't really see the point, I'd rather get a laptop running windows (so all my stuff was compatible) or wait for the Google netbook.

I wonder though, does the simple matter of owning a Mac somehow bestow upon you a sense of superiority, or is it an attitude of persecution when all you see is flame-wars? Macs and iPhones have become fashion symbols whether you like it or not, did you really buy one because you wanted something simple, or did you buy it because of the social connotations?

[Ginger Lord]

I bought a Mac for the Mac features and ease of use, to this day it has not let me down whereas the PC I had at the time only exists in the DVD-ROM drive of this PC. It runs like the day I bought it.

Getting the "lulz mac" comments was a side effect that I couldn't give two hoots about. I'm a PC, and a Mac.

[Sentura]

I bought a Mac for the Mac features and ease of use, to this day it has not let me down whereas the PC I had at the time only exists in the DVD-ROM drive of this PC. It runs like the day I bought it.

Getting the "lulz mac" comments was a side effect that I couldn't give two hoots about. I'm a PC, and a Mac.

chances are you'd get the same results with linux. you sacrifice potential power and extras for stability. i have to agree with rick's post, especially the last paragraph.

[Duff-e]

Great article on a blog I saw the other day. Why apple succeeded with the iPhone and such. It does a few things very well, and fuck all to the rest. So phones that did everything just ended up being too complicated, even though they could do much more.

I have owned the Blackberry 7280, Palm Treo 300 and the original iPhone. I consider myself a power user, I had every application and mod available for my Blackberry and Palm but the iPhone blew them both away. Why? Forget the novelty of the touchscreen. Ignore the appstore, because when I owned the iPhone it didn't exist. Three things that instantly come into my head are 1. The browser was usable - After using smart phones for 6 years with crippled browsers, this was huge. 2. Visual Voicemail - Something everyone thought of at least once was integrated into the OS perfectly. 3. I could play music on it and the interface wasn't a joke.

At the time the iPhone was more a toy but then again all phones except for Blackberries and the Treo were toys then. At my last job I had to get a Blackberry Bold (which I still use today) because the company had unlimited minutes on Verizon and I needed to be able to connect to enterprise email on Exchange. In the past couple years a lot has changed and being in IT I've seen first hand the iPhone become a valid corporate phone. I love the new HTC phones and android. I jailbroke my iPhone, something I probably wouldn't do with the appstore today, so I understand the opensource sentiment. If I had a reason to spend $500 on a new phone I would probably buy one of these. Unfortunately this doesn't change the fact that apple put their dick out on the line and made the form factor associated with smart phones today the standard.

The same principle applies to a Mac, they can't do as much as a PC (this isn't debatable, right?), but they simplify things and make certain that the few things they do do, they do well (wonderful English there, my teachers would be so proud) (alternatively: *huh huh, he said doodoo*).

To keep it short, yes, that absolutely is debatable. I've worked with fashion design and video/audio firms and they exclusively use Apple hardware and software. Final Cut Pro? Industry standard and mac only. At 7/9 sound studios ProTools was on OSX. Keep in mind that Apple also makes http://www.apple.com/xserve/. I've worked on many of them and they're really fantastic, especially in tandem with Mac client computers. Also, in NYC, as with other major US cities, you can walk about 15 blocks in any direction and take care of Mac issues instead of having to wait 2 weeks turn around for your HP or Alienware.

If you want to use a Mac then go crazy, I have often thought about getting one myself but I can't really see the point, I'd rather get a laptop running windows (so all my stuff was compatible) or wait for the Google netbook.

You can install Windows on any Intel mac.

I wonder though, does the simple matter of owning a Mac somehow bestow upon you a sense of superiority, or is it an attitude of persecution when all you see is flame-wars? Macs and iPhones have become fashion symbols whether you like it or not, did you really buy one because you wanted something simple, or did you buy it because of the social connotations?

For some Mac/iPhone is undoubtedly a fashion statement but do you know who those people are? Those are the people who start pointless flame wars with PC users about what's better. They're as right in their opinions as the people who discredit the significant influence of Apple in the computer world. I'm not going to make fun of someone with an HP or MacBook because I realize that it's just a computer and a computer is a tool. Looking at someones computer can you really stereotype their reason for owning it? What about the guy using a Mac because he works in publishing and needs to be able to use Quark, which his company has been using for the past 8 years and is the format all their files are in? How about the kid with a EEEPC who needed a cheap solution to take notes in his college class? They're just devices for accomplishing necessary tasks. Discriminating against, of all things, a brand is just what advertisers want you to do. They want you to associate their product with Right and Wrong. It says more about you than it does about the people you're insulting.

Do I think it's silly that there are 15 year olds who use a $3000 Macbook Pro for browsing Facebook? Of course. Is it equally silly to have a $5000 gaming laptop so you can play Crysis on max settings 3 times a year when you're on vacation. Yup. Conclusion? There are a lot of stupid/silly people in the world who spend their money in very inefficient ways, creating jobs for people like us who use more scrutiny in our purchases.

[Ginger Lord]

chances are you'd get the same results with linux. you sacrifice potential power and extras for stability. i have to agree with rick's post, especially the last paragraph.

Without wishing do degenerate this any further into Mac vs PC, my Mac couldn't get more stable. It has never crashed properly in the 5 years I've had it, certainly in the OSX side. It's done some pretty hefty work in Final Cut and Photoshop as well, not just sat around as a gimmick. Even when it's in XP mode its still pretty reliable although XSI has it's quirks.

The only thing imo Linux has it's free/cheap. I'd certainly rather have my iMac sitting in a room rather than the hulk of my main PC, shallow but also a reason people buy then.