Spellbinder Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 I thought i shouldn't have an opinion. I was just rip him. If nothing else he too was a human. Different yes, but most artist are, or rather every one is to some degree. Some artist more so though. His whiteness? I have no clue, i heard several reasons, but i never talked to Michael, neither did i know him back then. Pedo? Beats me. Again, i wasn't there. Did he do some of the greatest music ever? Will he be remembered as the king of pop? This i am sure of, yes on both accounts. Now you could ofc keep discuss wheter or not he wanted to be white or abused children, but what's the point unless you got hard evidence? Quote
Buddy Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 His whiteness?(...) Now you could ofc keep discuss wheter or not he wanted to be white(...) He's had Vitiligo and suspected Body dysmorphic disorder. Quote
Seldoon182 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 He used this disease as an argument to justify his several surgery imao! Quote
dux Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 He used this disease as an argument to justify his several surgery imao! So? If he wanted to have surgery to change his appearance that's his choice. Quote
Seldoon182 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 He used this disease as an argument to justify his several surgery imao! So? If he wanted to have surgery to change his appearance that's his choice. Yes it was... Quote
Sindwiller Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 My 2 cents: Overrated artist - well, celebrities are overrated anyway -, pathetic and miserable person, a guy with a horrible childhood, just another human soul. He will be missed just as any other. I don't know, the whole Neverland ranch thing, the whole pedophile thing, the whole thing with being obsessed to look like princess Diana, his mediocre pop music.... Quote
Cybbe Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 My 2 cents: Overrated artist - well, celebrities are overrated anyway -, pathetic and miserable person, a guy with a horrible childhood, just another human soul. He will be missed just as any other. I don't know, the whole Neverland ranch thing, the whole pedophile thing, the whole thing with being obsessed to look like princess Diana, his mediocre pop music.... He was neither mediocre nor overrated. He's made hit upon hit and has brought a whole lot to the musical world in his time. You may dislike him for any other reason, but you can't argue that his music sucked. Quote
Steppenwolf Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 He was more impressive as a dancer then as a musician imo. Quote
Section_Ei8ht Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 He was more impressive as a dancer then as a musician imo. Agreed. I mean I'm not denying his massive cultural effect. To me he was an amazing dancer, but I really did not care for his music. Loads of people are telling me "just listen to [song X]. It's his best and it's amazing!", I go and listen to [song X], and all I can think is "meh". Quote
dux Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 My 2 cents: Overrated artist - well, celebrities are overrated anyway -, pathetic and miserable person, a guy with a horrible childhood, just another human soul. He will be missed just as any other. I don't know, the whole Neverland ranch thing, the whole pedophile thing, the whole thing with being obsessed to look like princess Diana, his mediocre pop music.... lol, it's ok sind, you're young and don't understand. Quote
Duff-e Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 shitting on pop music is fine but I don't think MJ falls into that same generic pop genre...dude was a force...even if you don't like his music, videos like thriller and beat it are hard to top. I mean who watches beat it and doesn't want a leather jacket, baseball bat or butterfly knife for christmas. Quote
Skjalg Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Hahah this is really fun to read. Most of the people here who go on and on about MJ sucking donkey balls because his music sucks or it is something you've heard before, is like hearing someone talk about video games telling me that quake is "meh" because he's played so many shooters and playing quake now didnt bring him anything new. If you had been into music, which I doubt you are, then you'd realize what this is all about. He created modern day pop music. Every pop artist that has come after him has copied him in some way or another. Stating that his music mediocre is borderline ridicilous and you clearly dont know what you're talking about. Quote
Steppenwolf Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit. I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris. Quote
Minos Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit. I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris. It was never proven he molested those kids... Quote
Skjalg Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit. I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris. He is no ABBA, thats right, he is way bigger than them. But you are right in his later work not beeing so good but you can say the same thing about abba His music both founded the modern day mainstream pop and outlived all of it since its still great music. (alot of Mj's music is used as party music to this date, cant really say the same thing about abba.) And lol, yeah noone has never covered MJ and gotten instant recognition if they did it well. Beat it with fallout bous Smooth criminal with alient ant farm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JI_kQYYoMc Quote
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