acapulco Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 So, first post here ever. Time to get some live in here. Readin in this forum for about 2 months now and here is not much happening atm as it seems. So there we go. First of all - This is a beta! What I'm presenting here is my first UT3 Map ever. It is now in a stage I can go beta, but I am not fully 100% happy with it, so there will be some changes coming, but I don't know how big they will be yet. There are still missing some models I have to make but I will finish this thing, thats for sure. I think most of you read 'first ut map ever' and thought 'oh yeah, some new guy' but I hope not do disappoint y'all. Concept is an old beech tree wood. It's a little old mining complex... not really a complex, it's more a pit. These models are missing atm, these will come later/soon. All models and textures (excluding the waterfall and watertextures) are costum made by me and myself. Working on this map now for something about over one month. This is the first public showing of it. Hope it will be liked. Bot support is included. Weapon and Powerup placement is far from finished, waiting for feedback. As well as I seriously need feedback on the lighting and on the Terrainmesh. Leaks, places you can get stucked, everything like this you find, please post! First, a concept for the light situation. Later I turned the warm-cold contrast 'round, felt better for meself that way. Yeah, I know, no one will download without Screenshots: Download: ~~~ Download DM - Autumn Fog (beta) ~~~ Everythings appreciated, acapulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I actually kinda prefer the concepts lighting setup, there's a little more contrast and things popping out than in the in-game stuff. The screenshots seem a little washed out in comparison, which seems to be the idea, but I think something closer to the concept would work better. The god rays from the canopy could be really nice. Or just more contrast in the current setup. Either way, it looks cool, if I had UT3 I'd give it a whirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dux Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I agree with Eratic on the lighting contrast. But I do like the look of the map overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuSquirrel Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hey, welcome to Mapcore! This is a really solid first effort, especially with you creating the content yourself. I don't have time right now to give the map a proper runthrough but a few things come to mind from the screens, so hopefully that's still useful. Your concept is a great piece with really nice color and lighting. The variety in color between the ground textures and the rock really makes things pop out. In the level, I don't think the ground textures and grass have the same vibrance that you depicted in the concept. You might be able to bring that out more in the texture, and/or try some full-scene effects with a post-processing volume over the level to nudge just a little more color out of it. In the last shot there's a good shot of what I assume is a dead leaves texture that I think could benefit from a little more color variety in the red and yellow range instead of just orange across the board (though, if that's not dead leaves, that feedback might not apply ). I agree with Erratic that the lighting shown in the concept is stronger than the actual level, especially if you can pull off the god rays casting into the scene. I might be seeing this wrong, but it looks right now like you're relying more on a skylight and point lights throughout the level rather than a directional light. I'd rely much more on a directional light with point lights only for accents or fake bounces where needed, and try reducing the skylight to a dark color with a brightness around .1 or so. The lanterns are a nice touch, but in shot 3 especially I think they're a little overdone. If you are able to use a directional light, I think you could pull a lot of these out and use them in more situations like the entrance to the cave in shot 4 or in some of the lower-lying areas like shown in the back of shot 5. Also, something I've mentioned in a couple other UT3 map feedback posts is lighting fixtures like this - it's common and easy to just place a single point light, but this often results in too bright and too large a light for what's actually there - try using a smaller-radius bright light that only lights the immediate area, then using a larger-radius light at lower brightness to simulate the softer bounce you'd want to see around it. the same applies to that red glowy plant, which looks cool, but would probably improve with more subtle light casting from it. Something else that should help the lighting across the board is lightmapping on your meshes. It looks (and sounds, from your description) that both the rocks and the ground are mesh, so I'm assuming right now they're vertex lit (and forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know). I'm assuming right now that the textures are all using tiled UVs, so you'll have to create a second UV channel to use as lightmap UVs. You can try this out in the editor by opening your static mesh(es) in the static mesh viewer and generating unique UVs for the mesh and setting a default lightmap resolution (the larger the mesh, the higher you'll have to go, but I wouldn't start higher than 1024). The UVs it generates will probably be sloppy but it'll at least let you see the light and shadow detail you'll gain. To enable lightmaps on a mesh, either uncheck the "Override Static Lightmap Resolution" box, or enter a resolution in the "Overriden lightmap resolution" box (128, 256, 512, etc.) Your grass meshes hanging over the edge look really nice, but also have some poor lighting. These might benefit from one of two things: disabling shadow casting or being switched over to dynamic lighting. Easiest way to do the latter is just turning them into dynamic actors by right clicking and converting to movers. If you make them dynamic actors and keep shadow casting on, you might actually get some cool looking dynamic shadows (but you have to set the meshes under them to accept dynamic shadows and uncheck the "force lightmap" box), but this could also hinder performance, so unless it looks really good, plan on disabling shadows either way. A couple final shot-specific critiques, where #1 is the first one after the concept: #2: The blending where the rock meets the terrain helps, but I dunno if that's the right texture to blend to right there. Something that might give you better transitions at these edges would be more piles of rocks and scattered grass like you have behind that area. The more you can do to hide these kinds of seams the better it'll look. #3: This has a really cool shape to it, but it looks a little weird where the path on the left so suddenly drops into a rock ledge. I think that space could be filled with a few larger rocks that break up the view of the path a little bit and help cover the transitional seam... alternatively just covering a little more of the curve as it comes down might do the trick... maybe some of that grass/straw overhang mesh, too? Worth a look, however you go at it I'm also not sure the green tone inside the cave is the best color choice... more of a teal or light blue might match the rest of the scene a little better. Overall, like I said at first, this is a great start for a first shot in UT3, I think you'll be able to do a lot with it. Mad props for starting off with custom content, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapulco Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Thanks a lot mates! Will go in further to anyones feedback so far later. Busy right now. But thanks, aprreciat that. Theres also a problem with the server, got hacked, so sorry that theres no DL and Pics available right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapulco Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 So, there on we go. 'Ve got a lil update for you. Worked on some things I got feedback about and tried to imply what you told me here. So, no more words for here, screens: aca Mapfile Beta2: ~~~ Link ~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-freak Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Looks very nice - not sure if it has too much noise/detail going around for fast paced gameplay but then again, UT3 is always about having alot of details in the levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I still think the red light of those small plants is too strong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deh0lise Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Looks cool but I dislike that red light, maybe if it was more yellowi/orange or maybe not too strong it will look better :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarge mat Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I agree with what people are saying about the red light but this map is looking really solid. Love the style and am looking foward to checking it out once its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapulco Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Yeah, okay, thanks for the replys. Appreciate that! I will set the red lights a bit down and gonna change that fruits a bit in color. Wanted some eye catchin points for the ammo, but when it hits uncomfortable it's missing intention. PS: love -> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2d-chris Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Please don't tone down the colors, it's looking really unique at the momment and that's a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapulco Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 So, now, heres a little update to the map. Wanted to throw it final, but became some desastrous feedback to the lighting. Just can't get it right, so this is not really the absolute final. Have to practice lighting a lot more. Mesh-wise it's final I think. Made some additional unique meshes for the cave and the armorspot. Fixed a little bit here and there. So there we go with the pics: ~~~ Download ~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acapulco Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Killer-interesting, I see. Now Final, no more time left to work on. ~~~~ Download ~~~~ aca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-freak Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 wow - great update. Looks very nice! good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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