WalMart Worker Trampled to Death by Black Friday shoppers

[kleinluka]

found some video of when they opened the doors. you dont see the guy who got killed but you see how the people behave like just animals.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=100_1228021636

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f59_1227894726

[sk3tch]

My wife tells me the part of New York that store was...she doesn't doubt that would happen. She's from Yonkers and knows the neighborhoods to avoid I guess (especially on black friday). The sad part is the dude that was killed was pushed against glass until it broke.

What the fuck? Is there some kind of food and supplies shortage in that part of NY or something?!!

...No. For those of you that don't know, "black friday" is the day after Thanksgiving (A U.S. holiday) where just about all stores open early and have a huge price sale on thier merchandise. Sometimes cutting prices by 60-75% on such big ticket items like HDtv's and camera's. It works on a "first come first serv basis"...hence the stampede of people.

[-HP-]

Holy fuck! Fucking crazy Americans...

[Sindwiller]

[Furyo]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

[Sentura]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

you know, you could also just "ban" black friday. if a holiday results in people getting killed every year, you might as well just remove it. saves you the trouble of getting your civil rights removed.

[Sindwiller]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

you know, you could also just "ban" black friday. if a holiday results in people getting killed every year, you might as well just remove it. saves you the trouble of getting your civil rights removed.

No, you can't. I don't say that as often as other people (Americans), but I didn't know you could just go Soviet Russia on that one.

[Sentura]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

you know, you could also just "ban" black friday. if a holiday results in people getting killed every year, you might as well just remove it. saves you the trouble of getting your civil rights removed.

No, you can't. I don't say that as often as other people (Americans), but I didn't know you could just go Soviet Russia on that one.

you know what i really dislike? when people tell me, "no, you can't" without a reason. i don't see the problem in some sort of prohibition and/or fining of black friday, if this is a persistent problem.

[Sindwiller]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

you know, you could also just "ban" black friday. if a holiday results in people getting killed every year, you might as well just remove it. saves you the trouble of getting your civil rights removed.

No, you can't. I don't say that as often as other people (Americans), but I didn't know you could just go Soviet Russia on that one.

you know what i really dislike? when people tell me, "no, you can't" without a reason. i don't see the problem in some sort of prohibition and/or fining of black friday, if this is a persistent problem.

Well, as for the enforceability in the United States, you have a) a raging bunch of firms who would never let go of such an opportunity to make quick profit, b) a lot people who'd protest against regulations such as said one. As for the viability of such a prohibition: The state would have to check the majority, mostly big ones, of shops - obviously not all, since that's neither doable, nor feasible - whether they have discounts on that day; or, in a much more moderate regulation, police would have to control the crowd in front of all the shops. That is, after all, too big of an effort to prohibit a hooray-day for consumerism and firms - especially in the United States.

[Sentura]

It's so insane no word can describe exactly how totally unreal this all is.

I have a theory about how societies will sooner or later react towards these acts, this one being the most insanely pointless and stupid of a long list of "consequential uncivilities". You can see in certain countries a resurgence in politics of the need to educate people better, specifically on how to act in a society in a respectful way. Certain countries are thinking of implementing an obligatory civil service to your nation (in case you don't join the army).

Well here's my theory. This won't be enough, and after all is said and done and this is put in place and such events still occur, the outcry from the large majority of the population will force politicians to vote laws that will temporarily or permanently revoke any of your civil rights as a citizen.

One of the main argument in the "vote now" campaigns is that voting is a right and a duty, this kinda message is getting across, and when it's finally sunk in that your entire citizenship in any country means you have rights as well as duties, societies will willingly take away your former if you don't respect your latter. People right now all too often expect to be given things without thinking twice about their own role in society. That's individualism for you. The backlash as always will go too far the other direction, but it will come.

you know, you could also just "ban" black friday. if a holiday results in people getting killed every year, you might as well just remove it. saves you the trouble of getting your civil rights removed.

No, you can't. I don't say that as often as other people (Americans), but I didn't know you could just go Soviet Russia on that one.

you know what i really dislike? when people tell me, "no, you can't" without a reason. i don't see the problem in some sort of prohibition and/or fining of black friday, if this is a persistent problem.

Well, as for the enforceability in the United States, you have a) a raging bunch of firms who would never let go of such an opportunity to make quick profit, b) a lot people who'd protest against regulations such as said one. As for the viability of such a prohibition: The state would have to check the majority, mostly big ones, of shops - obviously not all, since that's neither doable, nor feasible - whether they have discounts on that day; or, in a much more moderate regulation, police would have to control the crowd in front of all the shops. That is, after all, too big of an effort to prohibit a hooray-day for consumerism and firms - especially in the United States.

oh it's feasible, especially with having police guarding large outlets; assuming that they themselves choose not to follow what would be a law by then. last time i checked, the law still has the final say in this matter. if people are getting killed over trivialities, it's certainly up to the law to make sure that they don't, one way or another.

you're forgetting how much power a government actually has in contrast to how much it is exercising of said power.

[Taylor]

Some stores in Japan have police controlled queues every weekend. I'm pretty sure America could manage this outside the larger stores for one day of the year.

[Ginger Lord]

Evidently we didn't rub enough off of the British Queuing System whilst we were in control of America.

[Steppenwolf]

just make it like in sweden. people have to take a number when they arrive at the shop. no queu whatsoever. you can buy your shit when your number blinks above the counter

[-HP-]

Yeah, america should learn a few things with us europeans.

[Chunks]

They had a cop at every major store in my town that friday. I didn't go that early, though... I hope it wasn't anything like that video.

I hope our current economic situation will stop people from being such consumer whores.