US presidential election 2008

[e-freak]

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Edited August 8, 2021 by e-freak

[2d-chris]

It's so awesome that Obama won the election

I'm not stupid enough to think that any one perspon or majority party can change things in the short duration, however, since somebody has to step up and be the face of screwed up issues Obama will do a better job than Macain. Mainly because people view him as very intelligent and it's first opinions that make a huge difference. It's nothing to do with what you say, but all to do with how you say it. (yes ok that's charm )

Also, might I point out that politics runs in spells, for example a major party will often stay in power for a few decades but will usually be voted out shortly after. This is quite simply a case of "It's time for a change" Chances are in the UK power will change to Conservatives once again.

[Jetsetlemming]

Do we really want to consume 25% of the world's energy and produce less than 5% of it? (Someone check my numbers please.)

Hell yes!

We're the third largest country on earth, both in population and physical size.

Also it's not 25%, it's less about 1/5th. 3.8 million Mwh/yr out of 16.8 Mwh/yr. Still more than any other country, but not not quite 25%. China by comparison uses 2.85 million, and the entire EU 2.80.

[Minos]

obama: its not like you are reading this but congrats anyway.

[Cybbe]

obama: its not like you are reading this but congrats anyway.

Don't underestimate the governmenta

[Seldoon182]

[Jetsetlemming]

They did so much of a worse job on the McCain shop than the Obama one, which looks believable.

[Chunks]

A question I'd like to have answered though is: Why are there only 2 significant major parties in the US? I personally think that there is something wrong with having only two parties that matter inside a democracy. And since people should know their country well, I'd like to know their own explanation of why it is like that and why it makes sense to you If that doesn't bother anyone.

I think it has alot to do with the media. There are plenty of parties out there, just not enough people know about them. It also has to due with the way campaigns have been run in the past 100 years. Back then candidates didn't spend their time selling themselves like cheap whores, rather the voters sought them out.

I don't really have a problem with Obama personally, he seems very level-headed. However we cross paths ideologically, but it's not as if he is single handedly going to turn this country into a socialist paradise. The only thing I don't like is the fact that the democrats have the legislative branch by the balls, just like the republicans have had during Bush's presidency. We've also had about the lousiest set of congressmen and senators in the past few years in US history, and with Pelosi it only looks to get worse. I really wish they would instate term limits in the congress and senate, then they would be more focused on serving their country rather than trying to keep their 'job'.

/rant

[Thrik]

I think it's mostly down to people wanting to put their weight behind a party they think will actually win. It's like in the UK we have many parties as you'd expect, but it's pretty much Labour vs Conservatives at election day and has been for decades.

Other parties are realistically going to take an awfully long time to gain anywhere near enough momentum to challenge either of the above, and probably not even in my lifetime, so I'm assuming most people choose to vote for their favourite of the two that stand a chance.

[Minos]

holy shit lol

[Chunks]

I think it's mostly down to people wanting to put their weight behind a party they think will actually win. It's like in the UK we have many parties as you'd expect, but it's pretty much Labour vs Conservatives at election day and has been for decades.

Other parties are realistically going to take an awfully long time to gain anywhere near enough momentum to challenge either of the above, and probably not even in my lifetime, so I'm assuming most people choose to vote for their favourite of the two that stand a chance.

I think that most people are just "straight-republican" or "straight-democrat" and thats half the reason why it is the way it is. On our ballots the first two options are "all democrat" or "all republican"

Just shows you the way it is displayed to the voting public. Everyone is pretty much brought up on either it's one way or the other with little education on everything in-between, outside, or around.

Just my theory, I guess.

[Duff-e]

empire state building is blue for win

[Sindwiller]

In Europe we have schools for this :S

W0rd. /me waves at Socrates

I think it's mostly down to people wanting to put their weight behind a party they think will actually win. It's like in the UK we have many parties as you'd expect, but it's pretty much Labour vs Conservatives at election day and has been for decades.

Well, it's not that it's a particularly bad thing to have only two major parties, it's just that there remain only two or three candidates that can be voted for in the end. Parties usually choose one candidate for the race and then you should talk about variety I'm just afraid that two parties can't cover all of the people's issues correctly. Inside a democracy, every major opinion should be taken into consideration.

Just my two cents

[e-freak]

Inside a democracy, every major opinion should be taken into consideration.

wrong. demcrocacy is (or should be) the "concert" of all opinions. if you go for the major opinions only you could easily go for nearly every other state-form as well. a dictatorship can consider all major opinions but the strenght and weakness of the democracy is that every single opinion is taken into account.

[dux]

I'm still waiting for a way that eliminates corruption. Hello communism.