Deus Ex 3

[Jetsetlemming]

I'm not talking about fully 3rd person games though. I'm talking about 1st person games that remove you from that viewpoint for X reason.

So I guess you must've just HATED Riddick going into third person for platforming and using healing devices, huh.

[Quakis]

Didn't DX1 go into 3rd person when you had cutscenes with people throughout the whole game?

[Erratic]

I'd argue there's a big difference between a very simple dialogue sequence and a prolonged cut scene with the camera flying all over the place.

Deus Ex has an opening and an ending. And maybe some helicopter loading sequences if you wanna get picky.

[dux]

I'm not talking about fully 3rd person games though. I'm talking about 1st person games that remove you from that viewpoint for X reason.

So I guess you must've just HATED Riddick going into third person for platforming and using healing devices, huh.

No, because I've never played it. I understand the need to go into first person for what it was doing. More to the point it seems you don't understand the need to when to change it and when to not.

[Jetsetlemming]

I'd argue there's a big difference between a very simple dialogue sequence and a prolonged cut scene with the camera flying all over the place.

And Deus Ex 3 uses third person to let the player peak out from behind cover while sneaking, whats your point.

I'm not talking about fully 3rd person games though. I'm talking about 1st person games that remove you from that viewpoint for X reason.

So I guess you must've just HATED Riddick going into third person for platforming and using healing devices, huh.

No, because I've never played it. I understand the need to go into first person for what it was doing. More to the point it seems you don't understand the need to when to change it and when to not.

You should play it, it's a fantastic game.

You're still not making any appreciable argument against the minimal use of third person for special actions.

[dux]

I've already made it earlier I'm done making my point.

[Erratic]

You should play it, it's a fantastic game.

You're still not making any appreciable argument against the minimal use of third person for special actions.

Riddick's third person cuts to climbing over boxes and railings are lame. Deus Ex's dialogue sequences are not. It's pretty simple.

There's a difference between seeing your avatar during a tame dialogue sequence and being whipped out of perspective in the midst of the action. Just take a look at Mirrors Edge. I can only imagine how much more interesting Riddick could have been had it stuck with one perspective.

Also, I'm not rallying against DX3 or anything, just arguing some of these points. I actually don't mind this stuff for the most part, but it's good to be mindful of the genre you're doing it in. For a tactical/action shooter like Vegas, it was fine, for DX, it's a different story.

[kleinluka]

Here is a link to a collection of images from the magazines, in case some of you missed it.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=80886

a french article here:

http://flickr.com/photos/deusex3/sets/7 ... 922989744/

BTW I just want to point out that there are more magazines coming out in the next few days and in the coming weeks with their articles on the game. It's also important to understand that Eidos doesn't write those articles but the magazines do...and well, sometimes they interpret things their own way and things get blown out of proportion and people jump to conclusions so if you have a specific question you'd like to ask, you can PM me or post it here and I will try to answer it here if I can.

[Jetsetlemming]

so if you have a specific question you'd like to ask, you can PM me or post it here and I will try to answer it here if I can.

Are there LAMs or LAM-esque items.

Can you plug yourself into wall outlets.

[-HP-]

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.p ... tcount=257

[-HP-]

bump, where is more shots, info or even better, the game?

also,

[2d-chris]

lol nice ;P

[Seldoon182]

New trailer from GDC

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1077019p1.html

ultimately, we decided to emulate the first game more;

Sounds pretty good! :wink:

[dux]

New trailer from GDC

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1077019p1.html

ultimately, we decided to emulate the first game more;

Sounds pretty good! :wink:

They needed to sit down and decided? LIKE IT WAS HARD? Let's see, shall we emulate the first one which pioneered non linear gameplay or emulate the second one which will be forever remembered as a console port disaster. Damn.

[-HP-]

YUS!