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yea but, you cannot change it anway. and thinking about it may only make you slightly depressed and sad. so why bother.

maybe I should have stuck to unreal mapping, I dunno. I never had the money to keep up with the games anyway (read as: to buy the newest and fanciest gpu out there to play the same shitty game on a new engine).

That's why I don't have a map in my signature

lawl this thread has emo all written over it AND IT'S YOUR FAULT, MINOS!

p.s.: I don't have a lame thing like a mapping "career". not even in "".

Suddenly evrybody finds torture ok? I didnt see that in the torture thread.

as long as it's not an Amerikan getting special treatment it's all good *cough cough*

What a long read!

I didn't really get the part about your queen not shaking hands with them, or rather, why they wouldn't shake hands with her. What's the reason?

The "tolerance of intolerance" you're describing is something I know very well and sadly, those people who speak up for this "tolerance of intolerance" often get supported by others just for the sake of political correctness. Here in Germany, it is hard to express your (in my point of view rather rational) opinion on those topics without being marked as a racist, nazi or whatever with the history our country has.

For example: We had a case where a German politician (Martin Hohmann) who was the mayor of the city he held a speech in on the day of our national holiday, saying that we [the Germans] should be proud to be Germans, more patriotic, displayed some inequities like the fact that our generation, which has got nothing much to do with the deeds of the WW2 era generation in terms of the question of guilt, is still being held responsible and marked as nazis etc etc, and, which sparked the whole discussion about it, that the term "Tätervolk (nation of perpetrators)" could also be applied to the communist Jews acting in the years of the Russian revolution (the cleansing of basically everyone who was not with but against the communist party). But then he said, that that term shouldn't be applied to the nation itself, but only to "the godless" (both the Bolsheviks and members of the NSDAP (National Socialist German Worker Party) weren't connected to any religion after they entered the party).

Problem was, too many people only saw an anti-semitic rant in his speech, although there was no direct proof given by the speech itself, his true intentions being anti-semitic or not (most of the key points about the Jews were written subjunctively, but I'd say it was rather a speech to give the Germans more self-esteem).

The actions taken after the speech were rather pathetic.

After the press was noticed of the speech, his party, the CDU (Christian Democrats Union) wanted him to step down and the German general of the German special forces of that time (Brigade-General Reinhard Günzel) was immediately relieved of his command after he sent a letter to Hohmann in which he congratulated him for the speech.

This doesn't have much to do with the Islam topic, but I think it captures a little of what you mean in general.

(Hohmann speech in German: http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2003/11/hohmann-3.htm

Wikipedia entry on Hohmann: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Hohmann

Some text about the case; looks like it's on some anti-Jews page : http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters/mueller13.htm)

As for the integration; I don't know anything of Dutch integration politics, but here in Germany, they are as good as nonexistent.

But they cannot solely blame the politics; when I see Turkish people who have a German passport, living in Germany for over 20 years or whatever but still not able to speak German properly or half decent, it makes me angry when those people talk about how the integration fails or when they demand something. First thing I would do when I move to a different country would be to learn their damn language. Better yet before I move there, given the possibility.

And the youth isn't much better for a great part; we have so many degraded young people running around here, in families living off of welfare for more than one generation, insulting you when you just look "in the wrong way" at them; god help us when they grow up. As if the German retards wouldn't be enough already. At least they don't bother us as much as the Turkish do with their "OMG YOU INSULTED MY MOTHER/SISTER/ETC, I'M GONNA CUT YOU OPEN!" attitude, which leads me to the religion part.

My sister converted to Islam a year+ ago, after leading a what some would call "Western life"; now she's leading a life with all the stuff like wearing a headscarf, not shaking hands with other men (after she got married) and covering up her body. She's (Islamically) married to a Turk by the way; but that doesn't mean she converted for him, she decided the stuff for herself. Even he is rather against the hole covering up part and some of the "hardcore Islamic way" stuff she does. Like praying 5 times a day towards the East.

Now, from what I got out of discussions with her about Islam, it seems to be really the problem of how it is taught by people who do not stick 100% to the teachings of the Qu'aran and using the religion to their advantage.

I think it is even up to the woman if she wants to cover her self up or not, if I remember correctly, but I can check on that. I also think women have an equal position to men by the Qu'aran, but that is hardly pursued by the men who are in the higher position like the government or may it even be the village elder guys somewhere in a desert city.

She has studied the Qu'aran and all, so if anyone has a question, I can consult her. I think she's a reliable source.

Won't change much I guess; it has more of a PR effect for the US (and the other side) than anything else, since the groups operating in Iraq are so loosely connected that it would have much of an effect on the groups' abilities.

He will be replaced and is already being celebrated as a martyr, so, meh.

Nothing much of a change.

FIRST EOT THREAD EVR TO BE SPOTLIGHTED!!!!

I was wondering where all these weird ppl come from

btw I want one too. preferrably owning some French in the process.

I want one, these are good for a French