Erratic

hell yeah

anyone playing any cyberpunk videogames

9 hours ago, blackdog said:

Did you manage to complete Doom on nightmare @Erratic? I gave it a try, got to the foundry level I think, after several hours of play (just the first stage took long enough) then I basically gave up.

Nah not even close, got a 2 or 3 levels in I think, that's all.

It's integrated into the design and maybe I didn't think about it as much in 2016 since the game wasn't as hectic, but something about an fps that disincentives you from shooting the shit out of enemies to completion is conterintuitive. Being in constant fear of missing a glory kill opportunity is kind of just fucking annoying. Nightmare exacerbates this since it's basically required to stay alive.

You should be able to uninstall glory kills.

Replaying a bit on Nightmare, I think glory kills were not a good idea. I am available for game design consulting DM me.

I remember when in CS you had one player as a VIP and you would protect him while he tried to escape, was fun as hell. This looks dull as fuck.

Combat can get a bit sloppy, at least on ultra violence, and yeah the upgrade stuff is over done. What is it, 4 different upgrade tokens, I think I only just now after 6 hours got a handle on what each of them is for. It's also lot of marginal situational upgrade stuff that isn't really exciting, just a small bonus attached to some occasional event. I tend to forget about most of the weapon mods too. Levels are also not quite as labyrinthine as Doom 2016 but I could be misremembering.

It's good fun otherwise. I'm not crazy about some of the environments that don't really feel "DOOM"ish but I get they probably need to go somewhere else with it. Earth is cool at least.

Hate to say it but the environment stuff is straying a bit for my tastes and there's a lot of fucking colors being thrown around. Also wtf at climbing and swinging on polls. But they got a soldier enemy with a crew cut back so that kinda makes up for it.

Finally something original.

Gotta be one of the most exhausting first couple hours with a game I've had in awhile. Not sure how helpful it is to front load this much of your progression/mission/item menus/systems etc this early. I'm being bombarded with information and now idea as to how it applies to the actual core game. Survivors. Defenders. Schematics. Items from crates. No idea what any of it is for. This is sort of par for the course with F2P but this is some next level shit. Would probably be better off just letting me get into the game itself and not explain all these things that don't seem to have any application yet. Took me 4 missions to figure out there are no loadouts for weapons and you can just equip them during the game, which I remembered being taught to me early on but I forgot about by the time I trudged through the rest of the intro.

Just get people in the game. You got me doing homework before I get to have 2 minutes and 30 seconds of gameplay and then it's back to the menus marking off exclamation points for about the same amount of time.

Broad, homogenized approaches to world and character building will tend to net you exactly that.

Rruns bad, lots of visual glitches, impeccable design. 

10/10 perfect PC game.

Give people exactly what they want, not what they don't know they want.

What is this dumb shit.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff but none of it seems out of place.

Jodorowsky describing seeing lynch's dune for the first time is the best part lmao

 

his brand lmao

Jack your brand is just all over the place

you don't even have a linked in

your twitter follower count is mother fuckin lacking

bro wordpress is some ancient shit from two thousand and 5, aint no one reading blogs anymore lmaoooooooo

goddam you using different usernames for steam and your polycount accounts no one know who the fuck you are

man if game dev professionals sees your lackluster internet persona you just ain't gonna get ahead

 

These things will be changed when there is a monetary incentive to improve them. Otherwise you're right, we should continue to not pay modders anything and expect a very low level of professionalism and effort

 

This is exactly why the mod community was an incredible thing. It wasn't a professional environment, there were no expectations and wtf are you talking about with low levels of effort?

What kind of fascist shit is this.

his brand lmao

Jack your brand is just all over the place

you don't even have a linked in

your twitter follower count is mother fuckin lacking

bro wordpress is some ancient shit from two thousand and 5, aint no one reading blogs anymore lmaoooooooo

goddam you using different usernames for steam and your polycount accounts no one know who the fuck you are

man if game dev professionals sees your lackluster internet persona you just ain't gonna get ahead

rip the great frontier of game development

the adventure into the unknown is dead. the money is moving in. time to measure your worth by the dollar value.

was fun. 

in some far off land, the fires of thousands of .bsp's still burn bright on the dead servers of fileplanet. I'm glad to have added to the great flame myself.

rip

Take an old popular map, remake it, and vaguely give the poor soul you stole it from credit in an attached .txt file like you totally didn't just fucking steal the layout from him or anything.

at least it makes for fun arguments with people who do this since there's that point in the conversation where you reach with them where they can't really say much more because they have no idea what they're talking about and it's glorious and one of those small things I live for.

If you watch games on youtube as a substitute for having played it you are scum

The Last of Us is a better designed game but what I'm saying is structurally they are no different, length aside. Which is what people are primarily taking aim at. Cutscene interruption, QTE's, walk and talk sequences, all of these guide both games through their narrative between the core gameplay segments. It just seems every now and then a game has to be taken to task and it's unfortunate because it means people are basically selective and inconsistent about what they like and when.

As for the cover combat and QTE implementation specifically I'm not sure either is done poorly relative to other games. The shooting mechanics are actually pretty refined, if mostly standard. Solid weapon feedback and enemy hit reacts. AI move around the environments nicely and create some decent combat situations. The location specific dialogue call outs are always a nice touch. QTE's are what they are, not sure how they're particularly bad here.

If you're going to shit on The Order as 'all the things wrong with the industry' then you need to revisit some previously acclaimed titles. They are no different from each other.

The Order introduces about as many new things as the last of us (so none) and with a far better developed world and characters but instead of free form stealth gameplay it's just a straight up cover shooter. But how would you know this when everyone on the internet who doesn't know shit about shit or play anything is taking the piss out of it.

People get really myopic about gameplay arguments and can't appreciate things when they do something well. This isn't call of duty where you have a linear scripted story focused game that is absolutely fucking stupid from top to bottom. This is well crafted world building with a coherent narrative.

I kept thinking of the last of us when playing it because they're very similar in pacing and the only major difference structurally is the length. One is a longer game, so immediately the value police are stripped of their excuse to shit all over it because 'at least it's 12 hours long'. Trim down The Last of Us to something closer to The Order and I'm not sure what the gaping philosophical design differences are between the two games. Somehow this wasn't a problem last year when The last of us won every award imaginable. Or Max Payne 15 years ago as a single player game with no extended content, or Bioshock: Infinite with its supremely confusing mess of a narrative.

Modern AAA games aren't about interactivity or discovery or player agency and they haven't been for sometime.