The Postman

Sounds like any religion. And? Pardon me if I'm wrong, but you seem to think this is a special case and somehow different

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This is stupid. Goodbye thread.

No you didn't. I want to hear stories about you and Muslims RD. Oh wai-- Must find RD's #3495th Muslims are going to destroy the world and I have proof thread. You've gotten very good at using a lot of words while still saying nothing at all. Oh cut the "little angel" bullshit. Crimany.

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I had a friend OD on hugs once, how could you post this, Ferret!?

So that makes you right? :roll: Yes, forget past experiences as indicators of present action, that never helped anyone! Actually, at least 3 are dead and every last one a suicide! Thanks for your generalization Actually I do. They're vain, petty and self destructive because they crave attention at any cost. It's a case of "Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!" A person's actions are never simply justifiable because they happened. By your logic we can justify genocide and '80s hair metal. I respect those who garner respect. Killing yourself for selfish reasons and leaving a wave of sorrow in your wake is not respectable.

He's strictly being contrary for the sake of being contrary though skjalg. There's no way any of us could know what that girl was on about and his generalization is just as much a generalization as mine. However mine is at the very least backed up by some anecdotal knowledge. Trust me (and ask Mikey about my mohawk) I know punks/goths/whatever. Goths are the dramawhores of the "scene." They live on being ever ensconced in a mood of depression and infighting. They're petty and vain and self destructive.

Sounds like any religion. Freedom is on the march!

Oh shut the fuck up RD. Christ. Now you're just being contrary to be contrary.

True true, I can agree with that, skjalg. That's a special kind of daily torture for 10 years of mental anguish. Anyone have any concrete specifics on this girl's cause of death? I mean, I think at this point we're all generalizing or guessing from anecdotal evidence. I've known lots of gothic kids in my time so that's what I'm pulling from and the story that Skjalg just related here is another very valid angle. So what's the particulars of this case?

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No, that doesn't work. Sorry. I'm saying there are gradations and that the problems of youth are infinitely smaller and more petty than problems of adulthood and death. And a book is chapters, but still a book in its entirety. Know many goths at all? I'm going to guess no.

Highschool and all the problems of being a teenager are about as temporary as you can get. Four years unless you get held back, but then that's your own damned fault, just like dressing in black, wearing corpse makeup and then wondering why people treat you like an outcast. Please go talk to a grieving mother ten years after losing her child, or heck at any time during her life. She might have come to terms with it, but the pain and sadness still linger under those scars. It is in no way as temporary a problem as not being popular in high school. Life is your entire life, so in the grand scheme of your own life it's an entirety, not a temporal state of being. Oh cut the esoteric bullshit, RD. You state obvious natures while skipping completely over the fact that in this case this dumbass's actions hurt all those around her for a purely selfish solution to very temporary problems. I have empathy for her problems, not her actions. I have empathy for her parents and friends. You make sweeping assumptions while trying to play up this moral pedestal but honestly your reading comprehension sucks.

Oops, somehow missed your post earlier about it. Doh!

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Maybe Friechamp can shed a little light on exactly why she took her own life, but my money's on "typical goth depression BS mixed with attention-needing BS." Bigotry implies a specific caste or race of people. Suicidal teenagers are neither. I think you missed the point of my arguments though. Her death is tragic to her family and friends and her death was selfish because it caused that tragedy and was a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Is that in game?

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I've known plenty of goths to know it was definitely the standard goth tripe. They're drama queens of the highest order. I can almost guarantee her last thoughts before she did whatever it was that turned her into dirt was "Haha, this'll show 'em..."

Yes, it is that complicated numbnuts. High school drama and high school depression is dealt with and above all: TEMPORARY. There's a level of maturity and sense of self that most people get after they've gone through their teenaged years. If you can't get past that you're weak, and if you choose suicide you're even weaker and you really don't care about others and are selfish to the extreme fault. Her life effected others, especially her parents who now have a huge hole in their lives because of their selfish shit-head goth daughter. Here's a hint RD, she's not with Jesus, she's not with the Devil, she does not exist anymore. She is inanimate carbon molecules slowly diffusing back into the nether or other molecular structures. She gave up her life and her consciousness because of some petty, temporary drama-laden teenaged woe and that is disgusting.

Hell, even from an atheistic standpoint it's killing your ONE chance to live your life on this world. Fuck. No matter of highschool drama is worth ending yourself.

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