@blackdogIf you really think we can develop a vaccine that NOBODY will die from you’re gonna have a bad time. And this isn’t throwing in the towel and saying “I guess this is good enough”. There are scientists working right now to figure out what’s triggering the thrombosis response in the AZ vaccine in order to make it even safer. But the number will never be 0, there are simply way too many people with allergies, countless combinations of existing medical conditions that can interact with a vaccine. It’s simply not gonna happen.
You may ask “how is this any different to the same argument being made against covid? Well, the vaccine doesn’t have the ability to spread for one thing. There is no exponential growth of death like with the virus. In fact, even if the vaccine had the ability to be passed from person to person you would still end up saving more people than harming them.
Small amounts of people dying from taking medication isn’t something new. One of my friends has severe allergies and can’t get vaccinated at all. On a more personal note, my mom is in recovery from cancer, and would have been pretty much guaranteed to die if she had caught Covid due to this and other issues with her health. The vaccine quite literally is extending her life expectancy.
I would argue the great majority of medications in existence have a certain number of deaths associated with them. The Polio vaccine killed and paralyzed a bunch of children in the 50s, should we have stopped administering that too? No, because you have to weigh the risks and benefits of a medication vs continuing down the unvaccinated path that results in far greater amount of death. That is what’s being done with the Covid vaccine, and while the risk is not 0 it’s also many many many times lower than the risk of a society that continues to spread and get infected with the virus. This isn’t about wanting to get back to drinking mojitos, it’s about wanting to get back to a functioning society that can live a normal life without overwhelming the medical system, something that has happened and is happening without the vaccine. The healthcare system has shown significant improvement after large portions of population were vaccinated.
So you want me to be shocked that 3 people out of hundreds of millions have died from the Pfizer vaccine? How many people’s deaths were PREVENTED because of this vaccine? Thousands. Hundreds of thousands.
I never said it wasn’t terrible for those who died this way. Yes, every vaccine death is horrible and yes it is in fact easy for me to make this argument when it’s not my family member or friend dying from it, but this is simple math in terms of risk vs benefit.
Every death associated with this pandemic is a tragedy. However if I need to choose between 3 people dieing from a vaccine or 30,000 people dieing because there is no vaccine, I’m sorry for those 3 and their families but I’d like to keep those 30,000 alive please.
The incidence rate of vaccine related deaths, while still arguably higher than we all want it to be, is still small enough that it wouldn’t even make it on a pill bottle under “extremely rare side effects”.
To put it differently, if you wanted to take these vaccines off the market because they are, as you apparently suggest, unsafe, then for every person that you “save” from dying from the vaccine you kill a hundred more because you took those vaccines off the market.