Fletch

It's not as fun on PC.

The console still costs $700 and doesn't feature a game I'd be willing to spend $60 on.

Anybody else find it funny that this is coming from Sony, the same people who brought you "Nintendo is for little kids" and "The PS3 is for serious gamers."

Unreal 3 is the same way. Sometimes I wish I had a third.

The Blues Brothers

And I have Fletch's children to feed to my child.

Please buy it, I have children to feed.

Hell no, this goes back to Off Topic. Quting Charlie lines is an almost daily occurrence at our office.

I nominate Mojo.

To quote Jamie Foxx: "You're fuckin' up."

Between Zelda, Wii Sports, Raving Rabbids, Warioware, Wii Play, and virtual console games, I'm getting plenty of use out of the system.

I got the same thing going into a Gamestop the other day. The guy made a comment about whether I had any next gen consoles, and I said I had a Wii. He then asked if I was interested in getting my hands on a PS3, to which I said no. He then said that I should get it now while they had a few in stock because they were selling like hotcakes. Of course then I could go across the street to Target or Walmart and see 3 or 4 at each store, or go to the Best Buy next to work that has had a stack of over a dozen just sitting there in the wide open for a month now. PS3's might be selling, but they're selling at a rate less than the stocking rate. Wiis on the other hand are always gone within hours of a shipment getting in, and the shipment sizes are much larger and faster than Sony. It's the Sega Saturn all over again.

This is getting farcical, and nobody is bringing up new points or learning to talk to each other without flaming. Locked.

I won't buy a PS3 until it's price drops below.... I won't buy a PS3 until some good games.... You know what, I'm just not going to get a PS3. Wii4Liife

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law You're getting really close to me locking this thread. Settle down.

http://www.garagegames.com/products/torque/tge/ Torque - fucking cheap and works on just about everything. Also looks like crap a lot of the time... but you get what you pay for.

Nah, actually Night Round Fight 3 is on #10 and it is also for the PS3... I'm referring to exclusive/primary system titles, otherwise Madden wins every time. Also, Resistence was the #1 seller for PS3 last year (excluding Madden), so Fight Night isn't even relevant in terms of comparative sales numbers.

Top PS3 game: Resistence - #80 Top Wii game: Zelda - #11 Suck. It. Sony.

I'm moving into a new apartment, so I've been buying random shit for that now, so that I can move in and not have to worry about not having basic things.

I guess a good way to recap some of the sentiments is: investigate it for yourself. There are good uni's out there, and some really bad ones. There are also good ones with shitty computer science departments and bad ones with excellent computer science departments. If you're event thinking of going, then do the research, request some brochures and materials, visit the campus, talk to students and faculty, and decide if its a good fit.

It's also worth noting that this is the education you're going to have for the next 60, 70, 80 years. It would suck to be 30, sick of the video game industry, and no degree or job skills outside of development. I don't mean to harp on people to get a college degree, but I worked as an academic counselor for my college, so it's a subject that I at least have some first hand experience with. The old axiom that half your learn at college comes inside the class room and half comes from outside really does have a lot of merit. Learning to interact with a diverse group of students and their personalities, cultures, politics, etc really does help out in the real world. I know this is probably a more Americanized perspective since American universities tend to be more focused on a well rounded education containing a heavy emphasis in a field, while European universities tend to be more vocational in nature, but a lot of the whole "outside the class" atmosphere is similar from discussions I've had. A college education also gets you used to the notion that sometimes you're just going to be forced to learn and work on subjects that you might not particularly enjoy, but you need to do them anyway. Just some food for thought as somebody that's actually had to sit down and talk to students about what they want to get out of their education/life. As for the industry in 5 years, who knows. The video game industry is still in its infancy stage. Video game development as a viable career path is about a decade old. The modern structure of the workplace and development cycle is really only about 5 or 6 years old. Some places are moving to extremely large teams where people have small specialties, allowing them to a ship a game faster, but at a smaller profit margin. Others are moving to smaller teams with with broad focuses, allowing for more profit, but a longer dev cycle. Maybe only one is sustainable; maybe bother are; maybe neither are. The big positive sign is that the industry is still growing, and if you have industry level talent and a good work ethic, finding a job won't be hard. But like I said, I can't say it will be like that in 5 years. When I first started at GBX in 2001, everything was still looking good, but I chose to go back and finish my degree, because I thought it was important to play the long term strategy. It's 5 years later, I'm back at GBX with my degree, and the industry is still strong. Sure, I'd be higher up on the ladder and be making more if I had stayed, but I'm still in a comfortable spot and I think I got good value out of my education.

I suggest getting a degree if for no other reason it gives you time to grow up, live on your own, and explore your academic interests. As for getting something specific to the industry, it's a toss up. A lot of game design programs have problems, and a lot of computer science programs never do anything relevant to game design. So I'd say pursue what you're interested in bother inside and outside of the classroom.

Sorry for dbl post but why the fuck didn't they release DNF? The way they showed that trailer made it look like the game was done? And it looked awesome. Man, retarded. Shitty shitty management.

There are certainly a lot of LDs and Artists out there, but I guess my comment was more about those who could work at a professional level, and those artists are harder to come by. At the end of the day, if you want to ensure yourself a job, then become a coder. They get paid a lot more and are in more demand. Plus, if the video game industry doesn't work out for you, there are millions of other jobs out there.

Their lawyer told them not to say anything about it to the media, and yet the media expected some sort of press conference. The media outlets got what they deserved: nonsense. The legal charges aren't going to hold up because you can't get a conviction on bombing hoax charges without proof that they meant for the devices to be thought of as bombs (which there is clear evidence that they're not). Even the judge told the DA that the claims are spurious. The most they'll get them on is vandalism. Hell, it can't even be destruction of property since they were held on by magnets. First time offense for vandalism is usually community service, so if they try to give them jail time, they've got a valid appeal that their got unusual punishment different from the norm. My final guess is a settlement for 100 hours each community service and a written agreement not to engage in guerrilla marketing again. As for Turner/Cartoon Network, it will be difficult to get them to pay back the city for the resources, because Turner can show that the ads went up in 9 other major cities (including NYC) without anybody thinking they were bombs. And when images of the devices were show on TV, numerous people called the TV stations on air to explain that they were cartoon characters. At the end of the day, the Boston police force and the 24-hour news networks are going to be the ones looking bad for this stuff. The Boston PD shut down a city because nobody could do a wee bit of research, and their bomb squad/terrorism task force apparently couldn't tell a light bright from a bomb. They also leaked this shit to the media (which is usually a no-no in a crisis situation), who scared the shit out of everybody because they've apparently lost all kinds of editorial restraint since 9-11. They're constantly racing each other to tell you about how it's the end of the world 5 minutes before the other guys. As I said at lunch the day this was happening: Give the news 12 hours, then we'll see what the facts are.